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We shouldn't have annihilated Gordon Brown for every reason under the sun, none of which related to his ability.

He was the closet thing to the common man we've had in power for a long time. Working class background. Set up a newspaper when he was 12 to try to raise money for poor people etc.

But none of that matters because he wasn't charismatic and talked a bit funny. :-\

I can't join you in the British political talk as I know little of it but Dia had some interesting idea he posted. My wife and I are making several moves to improve our financial situation including buying two houses one of which we rent out the other I am slowly rehabbing to hopefully sell it at a profit as the US housing market recovers. We also play the market. Thing is, when your in our financial bracket you gotta take a lot of risks, this whole thing could leave us in a bad situation just as it could improve things. I guess ya just have to grow some balls and hope for the best.

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We shouldn't have annihilated Gordon Brown for every reason under the sun, none of which related to his ability.

He was the closet thing to the common man we've had in power for a long time. Working class background. Set up a newspaper when he was 12 to try to raise money for poor people etc.

But none of that matters because he wasn't charismatic and talked a bit funny. :-\

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There are no working class politicians any more, Ed is as charismatic as a dead slug John Bomber
Prescott he was a common man, have you noticed how slick and polished politicians are all front
but no substance.
Tony Blair he was a oily git a good front man, for the Labour party but far removed from a true
Labour politician, the Unions put a lot of money into the Labour party, but Ed Millaband fucked
them over the prick.

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Originally Posted by walrus

I can't join you in the British political talk as I know little of it but Dia had some interesting idea he posted. My wife and I are making several moves to improve our financial situation including buying two houses one of which we rent out the other I am slowly rehabbing to hopefully sell it at a profit as the US housing market recovers. We also play the market. Thing is, when your in our financial bracket you gotta take a lot of risks, this whole thing could leave us in a bad situation just as it could improve things. I guess ya just have to grow some balls and hope for the best.

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I admire you for taking the risk mate, I have no problem with people making money at all , the
one's I am talking about are injustice, of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
We do need people with money I am not stupid, but things need to be a bit more fair lets pay
people a living wage, which we are not.
What pisses me off if you fuck up in your job your got rid of, if your a banker you lose Millions do
they get rid of you NO, you are rewarded with a large bonus.:confused:

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I've just been hearing about a PFI deal the Conservatives did with a private equity firm. They've handed over a chunk of a local health authority to them. The private equity firm basically get a hospital, a couple of drop-in centres and a few GP practices buildings and contents for free ( worth hundreds of millions) and their entire budget. The first thing the private equity boys are doing is taking 15% of the budget directly in rent for buildings they've been given for free and have told the hospitals and centres to cut their spending by 15% immediately with more cuts and layoffs to come.

Oh wait, that deal was one of dozens done by the last Labour government.


Seriously, how much different do you think a Labour government will be? I'll have more to add to this tomorrow.

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Well the Tories have sold off just about everything to there friends, only good Tory is a dead one.;)

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How is the Labour party any different? The Labour politicians are all desperate for a payday from the city after their political career is over, they're exactly the same as the Tories. If you look at former Labour ministers who did favours for big firms when in office and then took a seat on the board of those firms when they left office the current number of Labour guys far exceeds the number of Conservative guys who did the same thing. So surely if you're upset about politicians doing favours for their freiends in big business you should be most upset at the Labour party?

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Are YOU A TORY.

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What difference does it make?

What I'm saying is that there's no effective difference between Labour and Conservative. Whether I'm a Conservative or even a conservative is irrelevant. Whoever wins the next election and forms the next government is going to continue parcelling off the public sector to private firms and investors in return for future employment when they leave office. I don't understand the dismal tribalism when youe tribe leaders are going to shaft you in exactly the same way that the tribe you hate are going to shaft you.

So, bearing on mind that the facts and the evidence show all top Labour politicians from the Blair/Brown era left office and stuck their snouts straight in the trough (top earner among them Tony Blair, net worht when leaving office under half a million, current net worth thirty or forty million) why favour one bunch of crooks so strongly over the other bunch?

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Originally Posted by Dia bando

Remember the grass roots of the Tories , are landed gentry the Lord of the Manor type,
the working man has very little in common, with the working man.
Trouble is WE are a class society, them and us you may have money, but if your a council house
erk made good, they would take your money but you would still be riff raff, you would not have
the correct breeding.

The old school tie brigade rule, does not mater if your a thick git the World is there oyster, that
is most disappointing as they now run the country.
We have been told to tighten our belts, the poorly paid did but the rich there gut is hanging over
the trousers, what a coder sending bunch of BASTARDS I fucking hate Tories.
Thatcher fucked up the Country, WE were industrial giants they sold everything off, we are a
laughing stock we needed new train stock for our Railways, guess we went to Germany, do
you think they would buy of the UK BOLLOCKS.

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The Conservative Party used to be the political party with the largest membership in the world. In the fifties they had nearly three million members. I'm pretty sure there aren't three million members of the landed gentry. They must have some actual grassroots grassroots.

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Originally Posted by walrus

I can't join you in the British political talk as I know little of it but Dia had some interesting idea he posted. My wife and I are making several moves to improve our financial situation including buying two houses one of which we rent out the other I am slowly rehabbing to hopefully sell it at a profit as the US housing market recovers. We also play the market. Thing is, when your in our financial bracket you gotta take a lot of risks, this whole thing could leave us in a bad situation just as it could improve things. I guess ya just have to grow some balls and hope for the best.

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Property, smart move. Playing the markets, not so smart. My advice to you with the money you've got in the markets. Are you ahead of where you were when you started? If so put it in an interest-bearing account and wait a year or three until we get a crash or a major correction. Then invest in an index fund that takes very little in the way of fees. I don't do anything with individual stocks but I know a lot of people who do it professionally and they're happy if they get it right 50% of the time. 50% of the time keeps them in a job or keeps their investors investing with them. You being as successful as them, getting it right half the time, can cost you a lot of money.


Long term, markets go up, markets come down. Buy at the bottom and sit on it. In the long run you come out ahead.

Mansion tax: most voters are with Ed Miliband, not Myleene Klass who is a stupid out of touch rich toff.

Mansion tax: most voters are with Ed Miliband, not Myleene Klass | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian

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Originally Posted by Master

Mansion tax: most voters are with Ed Miliband, not Myleene Klass who is a stupid out of touch rich toff.

Mansion tax: most voters are with Ed Miliband, not Myleene Klass | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian

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I don't no any Graininess living in a Mansion, if you live in one my heart bleeds for them, Myleene
no talent Klass stupid bitch, Tory twerps I hate them with a passion they open there mouths and
utter total rubbish falls out of it.

Labour's Emily Thornberry quits over 'snobby' tweet, they are just as bad!

Emily Thornberry has resigned from Labour's front bench after sending a tweet during the Rochester and Strood by-election which was branded "snobby".

The shadow attorney general apologised for the message, which showed a terraced house with three England flags, and a white van parked outside.

UKIP said she had "sneered, and looked down her nose at a white van in Strood with the cross of St George on it".

Labour leader Ed Miliband was "angry" at her, a senior figure told the BBC.



BBC News - Labour's Emily Thornberry quits over 'snobby' tweet

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Originally Posted by Master

Labour's Emily Thornberry quits over 'snobby' tweet, they are just as bad!

Emily Thornberry has resigned from Labour's front bench after sending a tweet during the Rochester and Strood by-election which was branded "snobby".

The shadow attorney general apologised for the message, which showed a terraced house with three England flags, and a white van parked outside.

UKIP said she had "sneered, and looked down her nose at a white van in Strood with the cross of St George on it".

Labour leader Ed Miliband was "angry" at her, a senior figure told the BBC.



BBC News - Labour's Emily Thornberry quits over 'snobby' tweet

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Yes it was a belittling tweet, but UKIP are just EU hating Tories what a bunch, we must remember
it really only counts next year who we vote for, UKIP are saying things what some people want to
hear. We must remember the working man, has been forsaken, by Labour it was the party of
the working class, now it's very much panders to the middle class.
Labour are the lesser of 3 evils, we must remember UKIP are steeling Tory votes, and if it's close
them bastards will get in bed with the Tories in the next election.

Wonder what it will all be like ten years from now..

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Originally Posted by imp

Wonder what it will all be like ten years from now..

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Labour get in, they mess up.
Tories get in they mess even more.
Labour get in they mess up....

The tories suck as do labour.
Labour had their chance and thanks to Tony B.Liar , we abolished the Treason law , and now look at the problems we have with extremists.
It is not radicalisation it is treason and they should all swing for it.
Both labour and Tory = dog shit , lets have a change.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

The tories suck as do labour.
Labour had their chance and thanks to Tony B.Liar , we abolished the Treason law , and now look at the problems we have with extremists.
It is not radicalisation it is treason and they should all swing for it.
Both labour and Tory = dog shit , lets have a change.

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Yes Al bad people need hitting with a big stick, not a feather duster.