The funny thing is both of these have since played together many times for England.Quote:
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The funny thing is both of these have since played together many times for England.Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
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Originally Posted by ryanmanHey Titofan, good to see you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Your premise is right largely I think. Except concussions are very common in Rugby. Very common. \\\head clashes are every few minutes. You are taught to tackle in a certain way but mistakes happen several times every match. I'm a rugby player but love american football. I'd guess spinal injuries are more common in AmF but it's just a guess. Watch my vids and see Manu go. I've played against him.
Good vids, ryanman. There's some vicious hitting going on there. My premise on the concussions was based on the false sense of security of having a helmet and using it as a weapon in the NFL. While the helmet might protect the actual skull from cuts and bruises... it does little to protect the brain-scrambling effect of a vicious hit. But yeah... some of those hits in the rugby vids are pretty crushing. It's no wonder concussions are plentiful there too.
On a side note, one big difference between the two sports is the noticeable absence of big, fat guys in the rugby teams. In the NFL, with its specialized roles, you have these big-bellied, 350- pound linemen. It's surprising how much athleticism and stamina they have... but they still don't look like athletes... LOL.
None. Biggest balls are in BALLETQuote:
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He's a great bloke, hard as nails, but what position do you think he should play?Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
Tough one isn't it. I would say centre and that is where he will be starting but apparently in training he is looking more comfortable in the back row. But that's a big learning curve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHe's a great bloke, hard as nails, but what position do you think he should play?Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
It is a big learning curve, but I think it's only worth him coming over as a 6 or 8. I personally can see the point of putting him in the centre to get him on the field, but long term , he is not a centre. People are getting carried away with comparisons with Sonny Bill, they are very different in guile, physique , toughness and skillset. The massive head on collisions in RL running at each other from 20 yards apart don't happen in Union. (Apart from picking up at the base, or if he's playing Back row and covering back for the wing and running a kick back. That's what I could imagine him doing (hopefully!)Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanTough one isn't it. I would say centre and that is where he will be starting but apparently in training he is looking more comfortable in the back row. But that's a big learning curve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHe's a great bloke, hard as nails, but what position do you think he should play?Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman
Part of me actually wishes he hadn't come to Union, because he's such a great guy (as well as being tough!) , that I don't want to see him fail and then 2/3 years down the line go back to RL and not be the player he is now. That would be a shame for him, but could realistically happen because there isn't a position for him in Union. I have to say I really hope I'm wrong.
Sorry for taking this so far off topic guys.
Rugby players are hard and the sport is mental far too many serious injuries.
This guy tackles like a bull and breaks tackles like a.....well like a bull
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaGECYaRwQU
Pure Rugby pacester
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvY5TBa0i7o
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That awkward moment when you realize you posted the same thing in the same thread 6 months ago ;D
He's an intense fellow though. If ever there was a sport created for Samoans to succeed, it's rugby.
Well...........
Technically, the NFL has the bigger balls. No question.
Yes...
Both are about the same length, but the NFL balls are larger in circumference around their widest point.
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That awkward moment when you realize you posted the same thing in the same thread 6 months ago ;D
He's an intense fellow though. If ever there was a sport created for Samoans to succeed, it's rugby.
Alcohol will do that to you. :cool:
I read on the BBC website that some administrators in the NFL are seriously considering getting rid of helmets in ten future. Their argument, and it's one that has already been made on this thread, is that wearing a helmet gives the user a false sense of safety so they don't learn how to tackle properly and use the helmet as a weapon.
I get that, but I just don't see how actually removing the helmet will reduce concussions. There are a huge amount of serious concussions in both rugby codes ..... And NFL players would all have to very quickly learn how to tackle properly etc.
Can't say I see it happening.
That'll never happen, it would totally change the game. Every player would have to go back and essentially re-learn how to play football.
as steriod use is know for reducing the size of testies, the average nut size in rugby players is bigger