These people that talk smack about Mike Tyson...

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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

Tyson was on coke, weed and liquor from the late 80's.

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And he was still winning!!. Lol

The more rounds a guy has the more likely you are to spot a weakness...just law of averages. Plus it's just common sense pressure fighters gas out....UNLESS they like Joe Frazier build up steam as the fight goes on instead of shooting off like a rocket the first few rounds.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

And there's the problem with your argument

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What argument, I just offering up friendly conjecture

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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

... you DO know he was shot by the time he got out of prison the first time, right?

The Tyson that lost to Douglas was an under-trained fighter. He deserved to lose. The fighter that came out of prison was a shot fighter.

Even on half-staff Tyson was still better than many of the top ten bums. lolol....

You just can't compare the Tyson that killed Berbick, Holmes, and out lasted Bonecrusher Smith, with the guy that walked around the ring post-prison.

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And the award for the most generic thread goes to ......

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Originally Posted by Vendettos

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Originally Posted by ykdadamaja

... you DO know he was shot by the time he got out of prison the first time, right?

The Tyson that lost to Douglas was an under-trained fighter. He deserved to lose. The fighter that came out of prison was a shot fighter.

Even on half-staff Tyson was still better than many of the top ten bums. lolol....

You just can't compare the Tyson that killed Berbick, Holmes, and out lasted Bonecrusher Smith, with the guy that walked around the ring post-prison.

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And the award for the most generic thread goes to ......

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.... and the winner for the most trolling guy that follows you around like a horny school girl is...

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

Mike Tyson was a great fighter, no doubt. One of the most fearsome punchers and most intimidating fighters in history. That being said, I don't know how shot he was, and not sure that it really matters. Bowe got fat and never fulfilled his potential, so the bottom line is that regardless of what you feel caused Mike to not have the really big wins over elite opponents, the fact is he never got those wins. Top 15 ATG at Heavy? Sure. Ahead of guys like Holmes, Louis, Lewis, Ali, Evander, Marciano, Foreman...etc.? I don't see it.

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Bowe had a screw knocked loose or come loose. His meltdown was quick permanent. IMO

Bowe vs Tyson at any point in time would have been GREAT!