Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
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Gandalf
During my prolonged period in exile for inciting the wrath of the Zionist empire, I have found myself enjoying Russell Brand. Brand is a man that has some people foaming at the mouth with hatred, but it is something I find hard to place. Is it because he is an addict that likes to fuck? Isn't any man flawed? What sets Brand apart for me though is that he has taken the time to read his Chomsky, to get involved in local issues, to show that he cares.
Russell Brand is really just one of us and he had no need to ever get involved with local concerns or develop a politics of reason. I watched him on Question Time and was almost in tears at the way he restrained himself with a premeditated audience and yet another media agenda to try and belittle him. However, he maintained his cool and he expressed his points with an integrity found nowhere else on the panel. He made Farage look like a dinosaur.
Sure, he resorted to insults and looked at Farage as though he is evil, but Farage was very telling in going nowhere near the City of London (centre of all global evil) which only received praise. Then the clap trap from others about the NHS and privatisation. It effectively has been privatised with PFI initiatives and new contracts handed out daily. The BBC will not tell the truth and shows like Question Time are another example of the antiquated and agenda driven purpose of the BBC. Having Brand on is meant to 'fill gaps', but if Brand is for real, maybe they are playing a dangerous game. Th same can be said of Farage. Farage versus Brand says it all about the BBC and the UK.....what a travesty.
Personally, I applaud Russell Brand. Though I don't find him funny, I don't need to be entertained by him. What I think people need is someone with a sense of decency sticking up for them and if Brand is willing to get up there in front of a loaded audience and put himself through it, then full credit to the man. Brand is right. There is nobody to vote for and the revolution will come from beyond. The system itself is rot. His Trews videos are very good too and along with Russia Today is where people should be heading for their news. The mainstream is dead. God, condemn the Queen.
Cheers, my friend, glad you are here again.
Russel Brand gets on every last one of my nerves. he annoys me nearly as much as Jim Carey.
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
I was having this very same discussion with an ex colleague of mine yesterday. He's gone all Citizen Smith over the last 2 years, constantly ranting about something, generally the BBC. He hates Brand too so was pleased as punch when he apparently got made a mug of on QT, he cant see the hypocrisy in his argument.
He was slating Brand for his New Era protest too, he was upset at Brand paying rent to a tax dodging landlord whilst taking up the good fight with the trash. My mate is an IT tech like me but is also a part time plastic lord of the manor looking after a country estate with his wife when the owner and confirmed tax dodger fucks off over seas every five minute. He also cant see the hypocrisy in that one either. I cant blame him, full size snooker table and a heated indoor swimming pool, I'd chuck my principles out the window as I approached the secure gates, long before heading down the sweeping driveway.
I can take him or leave him myself. He can be engaging when he wants to be but generally chooses to play up to the over the top caricature of himself. I agree with his underlying point, politicians wont fix our problems, it's not in their best interests too. I'll leave the prophesising to Miles because I don't know how exactly it will happen but we have to fix our own problems by saying no, we wont take it any more.
Protesting isn't something exclusively reserved for the unwashed dreadlocked lentil eating brigade sitting around a camp fire singing give peace a chance. If a mega rich celebrity wants to take time out from banging models to take to the streets for something he believes in, even if he isn't directly affected himself then good on him.
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What I dislike with the Brands of this World and the other loveys, is there condescending manner
in which they jump on the moral band wagon.!
Most people do things to suit themselves, tax evasion etc hiding there money away most people
are hypocrites, say one thing and do the complete opposite.
Millionaires can lord it over the peasants, some do others don't yes privately educated posh boys
rubbing shoulders, with the working classes what bunch of A holes.
Sorry to say it but the TV personality thing, is old hat look at Bob Geldof he was broke then after
telling people to dig deep into there pocket, feed the World.
Bobby Boy is worth about 60 plus million,!!!!!!!!!!! strange but true a bunch of condescending bloody
idiots.;)
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
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AdamGB
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Master
I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.
At least he has the balls to stand out and demonstrate and can go on Question Time and take on politicians. That takes bottle.
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We don't need a revolution. We'd possibly end up with even bigger crooks in charge if we did.
We need a truth and reconciliation commission. They had one of these to wind up apartheid-era South Africa. Basically the apartheid regime was such a gigantic criminal enterprise that they would have had to send tens of thousands of politicians and police and so on to prison.
So they held televised hearings where they admitted their guilt and what they'd done. They all had amnesty provided they all told the truth.
We need to do that here. Get all former government ministers in to say yeah, I gave billions in contracts to XYZ corp. and got a seat on the board for twenty years in return. I'll give the money back and just live off my pension. And XYZ get fined and have to return the amount of money they robbed from the state. Hedge funds and their dodgy PFI deals all have to hand the goodies back and so on and so on.
A nice understated British revolution.
Russel Brand. His heart is in the right place but he's not very good at doing what he's trying to do. He should have done a lot of reading and talking to knowledgeable people before he started doing what he's doing.
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
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Kirkland Laing
We don't need a revolution. We'd possibly end up with even bigger crooks in charge if we did.
We need a truth and reconciliation commission. They had one of these to wind up apartheid-era South Africa. Basically the apartheid regime was such a gigantic criminal enterprise that they would have had to send tens of thousands of politicians and police and so on to prison.
So they held televised hearings where they admitted their guilt and what they'd done. They all had amnesty provided they all told the truth.
We need to do that here. Get all former government ministers in to say yeah, I gave billions in contracts to XYZ corp. and got a seat on the board for twenty years in return. I'll give the money back and just live off my pension. And XYZ get fined and have to return the amount of money they robbed from the state. Hedge funds and their dodgy PFI deals all have to hand the goodies back and so on and so on.
A nice understated British revolution.
Russel Brand. His heart is in the right place but he's not very good at doing what he's trying to do. He should have done a lot of reading and talking to knowledgeable people before he started doing what he's doing.
That is a cracking idea. You should stand in the next general election!
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Russell Brand is a jackass!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmlZWYvXMUo
He's a cunt and someone should smash his face in with a brick
"I'm not here to talk about my rent mate"
Hey twat you either are down for Socialism and live like it or you're a fucking hypocrite of the highest order! How much do tickets to your shows go for? How much do your dvds cost? How much for your cds? How much for your book of drivel? Fuck Brand and fuck everyone that likes him....he's a jackass
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
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Originally Posted by
Master
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AdamGB
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Master
I like Brand. He actually joins demonstrations and takes action. He is not just words and I rate him for having the courage of his convictions and saying how it is.
Demonstrations are important to Brand, unless he wants to go and hang out with David Walliams and Jimmy Carr at a Musical Theatre launch party. Then it's OK to just 'show your face' for appearances sake and then leave.
At least he has the balls to stand out and demonstrate and can go on Question Time and take on politicians. That takes bottle.
He's just doing a gig, his book isn't going to sell itself.
He's not active, he's full of empty rhetoric... Not solutions.
Don't give me that 'he's bringing awareness to issues lark', that's his attitude and it's condescending to his audience, it's nothing any adult with half a brain doesn't already know.
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Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?
It is not publicity it is real concern.
I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.
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He is neither. Just simply a cunt.
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
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Originally Posted by
Master
Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?
It is not publicity it is real concern.
I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.
#1 He's not practicing what he's preaching.
#2 If he was actually living as a socialist it wouldn't be publicity
#3 Why? These famous people are the dope heads who never finished high school...actors, comedians, musicians...the vast majority of the super famous know NOTHING of real life. Oprah Winfrey didn't know how to fill her car with gas....that's just how out of touch she is. She went from food stamps to billionaire so quick that every day use of a car is something foreign to her.
And I'm sorry I REFUSE to be preached to by a millionaire comedian about how great socialism is....go tell it to the millions Mao starved or the millions Stalin starved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za6tV1oLQbI
Russell Brand is a dolt
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Brand is not a socialist and never claimed to be.
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
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Originally Posted by
Master
Brand is not a socialist and never claimed to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbJ-xgn3ygU
Socialist/Egalitarian/Massive Redistribution of Wealth/Heavy Taxation of corporations
"I say profit is a filthy word!" - Russell Brand
But you were saying?
Re: Russell Brand: Hero or Zero?
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Originally Posted by
Master
Since when was it disallowed for socialist to earn a living?
It is not publicity it is real concern.
I wish other "stars" would stand up for what they believe in.
If his book is about putting out a message to the proletariat, why sell it (let alone with a £20 RPP via shops you call to boycott)?
It's 2014, everybody has access to a virtually free printing press (the internet), why profeteer your anti capitalist manifesto, unless you are not 100% sincere.
If he's going to distribute it physically, why not use some of his fortune? Or at least self publish... Instead he's getting it published by a corporate publisher and it's being distributed by the likes of Walmart.
Getting into bed with those people goes against what he is projecting his ethics as and isn't required at all to spread his message, but I guess his bottom line would be lower.
He's not getting in the trenches when demostrations get messy... He's showing his face at peaceful protests and in some cases fucking off after 20 minutes to go to celebrity parties.
His suggestion of not voting is idiotic... Politicians pander to whom ever they can get votes from - wealthy retirees, landlords etc are already the majority of the ones voting... Our generation is getting fucked over and having polticians only worry about keeping happy the very people brand is against is counterproductive, to say the least.
We're ignored enough as it is.
Not only is Brand a millionare, he has had to do relatively little to get there, he certainatly has never lived or worked for years in a way that most of us have to.
No wonder he is so naive and condescending in his 'enlightening' of us proles...:rolleyes:
