Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
Answer is blatantly obvious...
Marco Huck was 210lbs when he fought Povetkin, he was a HW.
Bob Foster was 180lbs when he fought Ali. He was smaller than even the LHW's today after they rehydrate.
There is no comparison between Bob Foster and MArco Huck.
The correct comparison is between Bob Foster and say Sergei Kovalev or even GGG. It then becomes obvious that these guys would provide better competition to Ali or Povetkin than would Bob Foster.
Foster is a proof of how bad Muhammad's opponents were, which you somehow try to flip around and use as a proof of how limited Povetkin is by comparing to Huck? Do your math, it doesn't cut the mustard!
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
Who was greater and will be remembered more Huck at cruiserweight or Foster at light heavyweight?
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
I would say Huck at Cruiserweight at this stage... Foster was good, but Huck's fights will go down as legendary, for the most part and when it is all said and done.
The REAL fight I want to see is: MARCO HUCK VS. ADONIS STEVENSON!!!
What a fecking fight that would be, huh???
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
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Master
Who was greater and will be remembered more Huck at cruiserweight or Foster at light heavyweight?
Dude when I first heard about Foster, I didn't even know who he was. I even had to look him up again to remember this time!
Who in the world who is not a hundred years old boxing aficionado is going to remember Bob Foster?
I would say Marco Huck is going to be remembered for a long time, especially in Europe where he is held as testament to European superiority, especially in the heftier divisions of boxing. Not likely to be forgotten in the West either, since such luminary boxers have to be ACTIVELY suppressed. The negative publicity however you try to give them however actually helps to ensure everyone DOES remember their name equally! Which is why your fighting an unwinnable battle.
OTNB is facing extinction, might as well jump off the bandwagon and let it go my friend.
I already provided you with a thread giving you a way to have your own way peacefully "How to properly honour boing history" lol ;)
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
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brocktonblockbust
Tyson Fury, alexander Povetkin, adamek, valuev, Haye, chisora, klitschko, Wilder, ..... Bwahaha....
Even the Carnera, Willard, Dempsey "weak" era was light years ahead of this group.
Well that was a very objective post right there, full to the brim with so much evidence that it's almost impossible to refute you...
I got one for you, filled with about as much credibility as your post offered...
What if I told you, that Tyson Fury would have battered Primo Carnera senseless and knocked him out?
What if I told you, that Jess Willard would never have won a round against Tomasz Adamek who would have not only outboxed him every daya week, but also roughed him up and muscled him around?
What if I told you, that Valuev would have batted Jack Dempsey around like a rag doll who wouldn't have been able to land a single meaningful punch on Nic because he was so long and so massive?
I think those are all very plausible situations. I don't really need to break out any vids, pics or figures or anything like that, because EVERYBODY KNOWS IT! Intuitively, you yourself know that your boxers could not suffice as sparring partners today for any but the reddest of tomato cans.
That's what I think of your biased, BS assessment mate!
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
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brocktonblockbust
Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc
I have already shown multiple occasions that such overlong fights were ALWAYS a rarity.
In fact in the history of boxing, approx. 70,000 fights, approximately only 1,600, 2%! went 13+ rounds, 13+!!!
Of those old boxers that fought these 20 odd rounders, they only each fought negligible of them also!
The lighter the boxer, the more rounds they can fight,
Any boxer can fight any number of rounds no matter the conditioning or the size by pacing.
Todays 12 rounders fight harder and are better conditioned than any of those ancient jokers
The more overlong fights, the more featherfisted the boxers in them.
But most importantly...
25 rounds, IS A SIGN OF FAILURE. Failure to win by KO! It means that the plan has failed! Whether the plan was wrong, or your opponent was able to thwart it does not matter.
You take a NEGATIVE feature of the drunken era of boxing and turn it into a virtue.
Myth exposed!
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
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Max Power
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brocktonblockbust
Hey. You're predictions are just as much subjective as mine. Nobody will ever know. But Willard would win at least 4 rounds against Adamek, and hurt him in a couple clinches inside too. Those men could fight 25-30 rounds with broken bones, no neutral corner. The clowns you champion are totally winded after ten rounds. Sam Huffin & Puffin Peters, Wladimir Gaspin For Breath Klitschko, David Hurt Lil' Pinky Toe Haye, Odlanir "Ow My Calf Muscle" Solis. Etc
I have already shown multiple occasions that such overlong fights were ALWAYS a rarity.
In fact in the history of boxing, approx. 70,000 fights, approximately only 1,600, 2%! went 13+ rounds, 13+!!!
Of those old boxers that fought these 20 odd rounders, they only each fought negligible of them also!
The lighter the boxer, the more rounds they can fight,
Any boxer can fight any number of rounds no matter the conditioning or the size by pacing.
Todays 12 rounders fight harder and are better conditioned than any of those ancient jokers
The more overlong fights, the more featherfisted the boxers in them.
But most importantly...
25 rounds, IS A SIGN OF FAILURE. Failure to win by KO! It means that the plan has failed! Whether the plan was wrong, or your opponent was able to thwart it does not matter.
You take a NEGATIVE feature of the drunken era of boxing and turn it into a virtue.
Myth exposed!
Here is my last word on this matter or any other delusional matter you are on about:
You are entitled to your own opinion. PERIOD. :cool:
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
What this person knows about boxing summed up...
Didn't know who Bob Foster was;D
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
His opinions suck.
Period.
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
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ross
What this person knows about boxing summed up...
Didn't know who Bob Foster was;D
At some point, nobody knows who any boxer is, you learn of them as you learn of the sport.
Obviously, Bob Foster plays or would play absolutely zero role in any current or recent evaluation of boxers whatsoever, except as an example of how pathetic the opponents of Ali actually were in fact. Which is why I discovered him late. Other than that is is not particularly famous at all. Certainly not as famous as Huck!
He is testament to the weakness of an era which is thankfully gone and nothing like it will ever return, unless disease wipes out most of the globe and we must start from scratch ;)
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
Bob Foster is one of the greatest light heavyweights ever.
Huck is what?
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Master
Bob Foster is one of the greatest light heavyweights ever.
Huck is what?
I don't think you understand completely what I am saying here.
The quality of Bob Foster, AS A BOXER, was very HIGH!
The quality of Bob Foster as a HW or CW boxer however, was not.
Today, the quality of Bob Foster as a HW or CW is non-existent.
As a light-HW? Well that's a WORTHY discussion. I'll give you that!
Personally I think he would be knocked out at the top level.
I mean really I cannot envision him surviving very long with Kovalev if already featherfist Ali, could waste him easy.
But again, as a BOXER, he was high quality, there is a difference.
Re: Alexander Povetkin- the best of the best!
At light heavy he was one of the best ever. Kov is just starting to create a legacy. When Kov achieves something remotely to what Bob did then talk about them in the same sentence.
Bob fought when there was no cruiserweight.
Ali and Frazier would probably have stopped Huck too.
