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Exactly and Froch has improved since then!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
That is a bad example to make, because he was still using the ropes at 8 after that knock down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Imagine if a power punching Light Heavy caught him and not Groves?
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Originally Posted by VendettosThat is a bad example to make, because he was still using the ropes at 8 after that knock down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Imagine if a power punching Light Heavy caught him and not Groves?
Stevenson gets far to much mileage out of his destruction of Dawson who had wasting disease and looked like Oscar in the Manny fight with both feet nailed to the floor. The guy does not have one elite on his lodge pole. Not one. Froch got caught up with all the emotion in the first Groves fight and lost his head. He sorted that out. Stevenson has one punch....a straight left and has fought nobody as yet that has been able to take it away. That is because he has fought a collection of gate keepers. He wont have any kind of size advantage over Carl and if Froch has anything left in the tank I could see him stopping Adonis.
You're being too technical.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosThat is a bad example to make, because he was still using the ropes at 8 after that knock down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Imagine if a power punching Light Heavy caught him and not Groves?
Stevenson gets far to much mileage out of his destruction of Dawson who had wasting disease and looked like Oscar in the Manny fight with both feet nailed to the floor. The guy does not have one elite on his lodge pole. Not one. Froch got caught up with all the emotion in the first Groves fight and lost his head. He sorted that out. Stevenson has one punch....a straight left and has fought nobody as yet that has been able to take it away. That is because he has fought a collection of gate keepers. He wont have any kind of size advantage over Carl and if Froch has anything left in the tank I could see him stopping Adonis.
CLEARLY Froch lets his guard down, now Groves is a 1 punch KO fighter but still hits half as hard as Stevenson.
Take away records and who you've beaten, Stevenson lands a biggy Froch is sleeping.
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Originally Posted by VendettosYou're being too technical.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by VendettosThat is a bad example to make, because he was still using the ropes at 8 after that knock down.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Imagine if a power punching Light Heavy caught him and not Groves?
Stevenson gets far to much mileage out of his destruction of Dawson who had wasting disease and looked like Oscar in the Manny fight with both feet nailed to the floor. The guy does not have one elite on his lodge pole. Not one. Froch got caught up with all the emotion in the first Groves fight and lost his head. He sorted that out. Stevenson has one punch....a straight left and has fought nobody as yet that has been able to take it away. That is because he has fought a collection of gate keepers. He wont have any kind of size advantage over Carl and if Froch has anything left in the tank I could see him stopping Adonis.
CLEARLY Froch lets his guard down, now Groves is a 1 punch KO fighter but still hits half as hard as Stevenson.
Take away records and who you've beaten, Stevenson lands a biggy Froch is sleeping.
To technical? That is his money punch. Like I said I'm not sure what Carl has left but if he can muster up for this fight, he's more then even money to win it. Especially in Nottingham but it would be in Vegas. They are also the same age. Carls got a great chin and Fonfara went 12 with Adonis and ate plenty of right hands.
Carls problem could be the miles on the odometer.
He's fought,
Kessler
Abraham
Johnson
Ward
Bute
Mack
Kessler
Groves
Groves
Stevenson has been hanging out in the tomato can aisle so he's most definitely the fresher of the two.
Taylor also dropped Froch. But I don't think Stevenson is as technical and precise as Taylor was with his shot
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Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Getting dropped does not mean a bad chin though
Froch does carry his lands low and is easy to hit against Stevenson that can be disastrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Getting dropped does not mean a bad chin though
Evenly matched up fight that can go either way.. I like froch more as a fighter but I think Stevenson has the tools to beat him...
Agreed and Kovalev beats both.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL DINAMITA
I've always found that to be part of his style. He's unorthodox and he's inviting you in like a Cobra but that's a great point given Carls work load, tough battles and age. He could be just that fraction of a second off.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFroch does carry his lands low and is easy to hit against Stevenson that can be disastrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Getting dropped does not mean a bad chin though
I feel that id Froch could win a title at the next weight then he would do it because he is concerned about his legacy, which is fantastic from the list you made of who he has fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitI've always found that to be part of his style. He's unorthodox and he's inviting you in like a Cobra but that's a great point given Carls work load, tough battles and age. He could be just that fraction of a second off.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFroch does carry his lands low and is easy to hit against Stevenson that can be disastrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Getting dropped does not mean a bad chin though
If he can not get a big money fight with Junior then he try Kessler 3 or even Ward in Vegas.
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Originally Posted by MasterI feel that id Froch could win a title at the next weight then he would do it because he is concerned about his legacy, which is fantastic from the list you made of who he has fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitI've always found that to be part of his style. He's unorthodox and he's inviting you in like a Cobra but that's a great point given Carls work load, tough battles and age. He could be just that fraction of a second off.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFroch does carry his lands low and is easy to hit against Stevenson that can be disastrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Getting dropped does not mean a bad chin though
If he can not get a big money fight with Junior then he try Kessler 3 or even Ward in Vegas.
I'm starting to see reports that Froch/Chavez is in the bag for Vegas.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Getting dropped does not mean a bad chin though
Froch has a set of whiskers, to which is why I attributed it to a well placed/timed shot can drop Froch.
I don't think Jermaine Taylor punches as hard as Groves