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Originally Posted by Wallace
Calzaghe should be No 1 IMO. His record speeks for itself and the manner of his latest victory should at least have him talked about for the top spot. If you disagree then what else does he have to do to become no 1?
Well hes only had one career defining fight so he is no where near number 1 pound for pound...hell i dont think lacy was even ranked in the top 10 p4p.
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True, yet many have admired his boxing skills for years and said how good he was. Now he has proven he was better than most, including his fans thought. It's more about the manner of his victory for me that should get him talked about in this spot. Remember B-Hop was often said to be in a weak division but he was no 1 for years. Calzaghe has beaten 5 (I think) ex world champions excluding Lacy, and has had 18 defences of his title.
PBF for me is the only one who could challenge him although I accept there are arguments for Winky and MAB as well. His record and performances for me demand he is at least talked about when discussing P4P No 1 rankings.
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If Wright beats Taylor, and Floyd beats Zab, they are hands down 1 & 2. Who's 1? Floyd has 0 losses, but beating Mosely twice, Tito, Solliman, and then Taylor makes a very loud statement.
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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
If Wright beats Taylor, and Floyd beats Zab, they are hands down 1 & 2. Who's 1? Floyd has 0 losses, but beating Mosely twice, Tito, Solliman, and then Taylor makes a very loud statement.
CC,agree 100% and fpr that reason, Winky would be my number/is already my number 1.
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Originally Posted by The Game
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Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
If Wright beats Taylor, and Floyd beats Zab, they are hands down 1 & 2. Who's 1? Floyd has 0 losses, but beating Mosely twice, Tito, Solliman, and then Taylor makes a very loud statement.
CC,agree 100% and fpr that reason, Winky would be my number/is already my number 1.
It's a shame, if giving the fans what they wanted was a big part of being #1 Winky wouldn't be in the top 50. To me he's another version of John Ruiz, yeah he finds a way to win but you don't really enjoy how he does it lol.
Calzaghe is easily #1... PBF didn't look spectacular in the outting with Judah (he looked slower and didn't have his deceptive power at 147), and people are still questioning him about Hatton and Cotto. Why question? Because they believe Hatton or Cotto has the tools to beat him, unlike Calzaghe who 99% of the boxing world would agree has noone anywhere near his weight that poses a threat, thus hes #1. Not to mention he tells things how they are ("He's shit!") :)
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by -Wise Guy-
People still forget who PBF beat earlier on. He beat the very best at several weights and was the legitimate champ several times. And he's never lost.
Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, Genero Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corrales, Arturo Gatti, Demarcus Corley.
Several of these guys that Mayweather beat are considered top fighters right now. When you've beaten so many excellent fighters and have never lost, we can't doubt his standing as #1 p4p.
I hate Mayweather as much as the next guy, but I challenge you to find somebody who has beaten opposition as good as Mayweather's and has not lost.
And this is coming from a big fan of Manny Pacquiao, Marco Antonio Barrera and Winky Wright. They are 3 of my favorites and I hate Mayweather. But I want to give PBF his props for being the best right now.
:coolclick: Needledick.
That's why P4P is so hard...you can't just look @ what's happened lately...you have to look @ the whole package.
Glad someone finally touched on it.
I guess you guys should really put Taylor at the top of your list then... ;)
He did beat the P4P Great Bernard Hopkins twice and got a draw with the P4P Great Winky Wright ;D
Who on Floyds list of conquests rates higher than BHop and Wink? and Jermain is UNDEFEATED... ;D
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My P4P
#1 Mayweather
#2 Pacman
#3 Taylor
#4 Wright
#5 Hatton
#6 Tszyu
#7 Calzaghe
#8 Barrera
#9 Rocky Juarez
#10 Eric Morales
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My top 10 P4P
1.)Manny Pacquiao/Winky
Look at their level of competition over the last few years and remember,Manny was koing champs at lighter weights too,heck Larios,a tune up was more dangerous than anyone PBF fought in last 4 years!
2.~)PBF-still has an 0,amazing skill,resume in last 4 years sucks.Where's the danger men?
3.)MAB-looks like he is aging but look at his record! Will beat Rocky comfortably.
4.)Rafa Marquez,knocked out 2 champs and I think his last 10 opponents have been top 10 RING MAG!
5.)Hatton-still has an 0 and Maussa/legendary Tszyu/tough Collazo and next years JLC makes an impressive list!
6.)JC-awesome fighter,beaten everyone he can,only question mark,what's his defining win? If not that biig,he needs to make noise some other way,maybe unify?
7.)Jermain Taylor-kudos on the resume but I believe Winky and B hop first time beat him.Needs a CLEAR victory to shut critics up.
8.)Castillo-made his name by "beating"PBF first time even though he wan not even P4P top 20 at the time! Since then,awesome resume although tarnished his name with 3rd Chico debacle.Should make up for it with Hatton fight.
9.)Corrales-look at the names there-almost a trilogy with Castillo,trilogy with dangeous Casamayor coming up,Freitas etc etc and he's only been beaten when weight drained severly,cut and and to an overweight cheat.
10.)Jorge Arce-awesome fighter,good names on resume,mayb needs more big names but been unbeaten for So long against good opposition.
Notable mentione-
Cotto-needs 1 big win to be in there as his resume is very good.
Isreal Vazquez-ditto
Ivan Calderon-ditto
Erik Morales-want to put him there so badly and win over Pacman would qualify him for sure.Look at all the great names he has fought.
JMM-deserves to be in there as most of his losses contraversial but needs 1 more big win imo.
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1) PBF-So good that there's really no point in him fighting anymore cause everybody KNOWS he can't be beat
2)Antonio Tarver-He beat Roy Jones twice (probably three times) :o Would have beaten Hopkins if not for the movie and the weight drain
3)Zab Judah-when he's focused, nearly unbeatable.
4)Pac-Might be number 1 but he's been beaten twice by really small peope, like 4'8 112 pound guys. Not just beaten, knocked out. By really tiny tiny human beings. Almost not even real people.
5)Winky-Would be higher but he never knocks anybody out. Hey Winky, why don't you start concentrating on throwing your jab. BORING ::**
6)Cory Spinks-Starr told me he was really really good. And he's the biggest boxing star in the hip hop community.
7)Lacy-Look at how ripped he is. 8)
8)Hatton-Very good fighter.
9)Reda Zam Zam-Really like his name but that's not why he made the list.
10)Anthony Mundine-when he only had like 10 fights he almost went the distance with Sven Ottke.
Honorable Mention: Barrera, Jose Luis Castillo, Kid Diamond, Diego Corrales, Jermain Taylor, JMM, Vivian Harris.
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I think Mayweather is an easy # 1 pick, the guy is masterful is every aspect of boxing. he does everything perfect. I would say he is a top 5 pound p4p of all time ! Floyd does so many thing correctly and flawlessly.
Barrera is good, but far from flawless as he have plenty of holes , and Pacman has good power and speed but he is also far from flawless and actually a little reckless at times.The # 1 is so easy because its clear that Mayweather is superior in so many area's and has more arsenal.. after Mayweather it becomes more difficult because everyone else is about at the same level, so the #2-3-4-5 spots are harder to fill in.
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After knocking out taller and bigger Jorge Solis this year, I think Pac is leading the p4p race.
If PBF wins convincingly afainst ODLH, then PBF and Pac will tie in first place.
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Originally Posted by baller
Another couple of months won't do nothing. If you wanna wait to share your opinion then you should wait 4-5 months. I wanna share my opinion right now, so Pac man #1.
PBF!!!!! I gotta give it to the man!!!!!