Floyd Mayweather vs. Felix Trinidad.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Tito just needed to land once. Oscar knew about the power and he could give it out. Floyd has no power to deter Tito.

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Originally Posted by Master

Tito decapitates Floyd with a left hook and finishes with a right.

It is not Floyd's best weight to fight an elite welterweight like Tito who would be too big and powerful.

Floyd will present problems early but Tito wold get him in the end.

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Same prediction for me. Floyd will be badly hurt but this fight won't happen during Tito's prime as Mayweather would be too scared to fight him.:cool:

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Tito just needed to land once. Oscar knew about the power and he could give it out. Floyd has no power to deter Tito.

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Who was the defensive minded mobile boxer with light power Tito was ever actually able to ko...:scratchchin:

Think Tito would lose because he be fighting a elite boxer he got schooled by Oscar but Oscar got robbed badly. Then with Bernard and Write he lost ever round he can not deal with boxer with speed has no plan be and can be exposed by the top boxers with speed.

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Originally Posted by Mr140

Think Tito would lose because he be fighting a elite boxer he got schooled by Oscar but Oscar got robbed badly. Then with Bernard and Write he lost ever round he can not deal with boxer with speed has no plan be and can be exposed by the top boxers with speed.

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Oscar won the middle rounds, lost the later rounds and the early rounds could have gone either way. Also Oscar could hurt Tito and commanded some respect. Floyd would not carry that much respect.

The latter fighters were at a weight above Welterweight.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Tito just needed to land once. Oscar knew about the power and he could give it out. Floyd has no power to deter Tito.

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Who was the defensive minded mobile boxer with light power Tito was ever actually able to ko...:scratchchin:

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Oba Carr

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Tito just needed to land once. Oscar knew about the power and he could give it out. Floyd has no power to deter Tito.

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Who was the defensive minded mobile boxer with light power Tito was ever actually able to ko...:scratchchin:

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Oba Carr

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Off topic, but Oba Carr was a really good fighter who happened to come along at the wrong time. He fought Quartey, Oscar and Tito and came up short vs all three, but gave all three a good fight in losing. I remember Tito beating him the most handily of the 3. I didn't appreciate the 90's enough, but looking back it was much tougher back then. Oba Carr would easily be a titlist these days, if not a unified champ.

This is a good topic for a thread, if it hasn't been done before. What fighters came along at the wrong time. Which fighters were overshadowed by even greater fighters who stole their thunder during their careers. These guys tend to hover just below the elite level, because they have the misfortune to meet the greatest of their generation. Yes, Oba Carr facing Trinidad, De La Hoya, and Quartey (and losing to them) definitely puts him in that category.

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Originally Posted by greynotsoold

At welter, at his best, trinidad was very very good. He used both hands and hit very hard with each of them. Good jab and moved well, too. He beat up Oba carr with his jab and straight right. This would be a pretty good fight.

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You got there before I did. Its a tale of two Tito's. Shame he fell in love with his power so much and that nobody around him sacked up and let him know it. Double edged sword. It made him his millions and got him international attention but also shortened his career and made him one dimensional.

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At welter, at his best, trinidad was very very good. He used both hands and hit very hard with each of them. Good jab and moved well, too. He beat up Oba carr with his jab and straight right. This would be a pretty good fight.

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You got there before I did. Its a tale of two Tito's. Shame he fell in love with his power so much and that nobody around him sacked up and let him know it. Double edged sword. It made him his millions and got him international attention but also shortened his career and made him one dimensional.

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That's why I said he might get Floyd out of there. But we can be sure it wouldn't be the left hook because of Floyd's style. But in his prime Tito did other things well, he wasn't nearly so predictable like he became as his career carried on.

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Originally Posted by greynotsoold

At welter, at his best, trinidad was very very good. He used both hands and hit very hard with each of them. Good jab and moved well, too. He beat up Oba carr with his jab and straight right. This would be a pretty good fight.

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You got there before I did. Its a tale of two Tito's. Shame he fell in love with his power so much and that nobody around him sacked up and let him know it. Double edged sword. It made him his millions and got him international attention but also shortened his career and made him one dimensional.

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That's why I said he might get Floyd out of there. But we can be sure it wouldn't be the left hook because of Floyd's style. But in his prime Tito did other things well, he wasn't nearly so predictable like he became as his career carried on.

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he only started relying solely on his left hand mainly at 160, at welter he had a very good stiff jab, a good right hand, uppercuts, and obviously the left hook to the body and head, he used both hands and used angles

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Tito just needed to land once. Oscar knew about the power and he could give it out. Floyd has no power to deter Tito.

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Who was the defensive minded mobile boxer with light power Tito was ever actually able to ko...:scratchchin:

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Oba Carr

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Carr was a solid fighter but not exactly a defensive boxer. I'm in the minority as I think he actually topped out where he belonged. He lost to some of the best but truth is he also got a couple of fortunate calls with Bramble and Coley. Manny did wonders for the kid but he could be sucked into slugfests with pure boxers and sluggers alike and be frontal. After the Trinidad loss he got an even bigger chip on his shoulders buddying up with Tyson and King

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Tito just needed to land once. Oscar knew about the power and he could give it out. Floyd has no power to deter Tito.

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Who was the defensive minded mobile boxer with light power Tito was ever actually able to ko...:scratchchin:

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Oba Carr

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Off topic, but Oba Carr was a really good fighter who happened to come along at the wrong time. He fought Quartey, Oscar and Tito and came up short vs all three, but gave all three a good fight in losing. I remember Tito beating him the most handily of the 3. I didn't appreciate the 90's enough, but looking back it was much tougher back then. Oba Carr would easily be a titlist these days, if not a unified champ.

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I think yori boy campus was at the top of his game when he fought Tito.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Tito was too tightly wound and tall for his own good and I think Mayweathers speed and accuracy..along with his willingness to stink it out...would leave Tito in some bad lurches to get painted. Constantly forced to reset. Tito was remarkable but also had glaring patterns and sketchy footwork vs speed.

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Tito was able to dominate people who fell into his traps. No way Mayweather allows Tito to land. Mayweather keeps moving and forcing Tito to reset and Tito doesn't land a significant punch while Mayweather lands at will in the mid to late rounds.

Tito's special hand wraps wouldn't help him since he wouldn't even touch Floyd.

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Tito just needed to land once. Oscar knew about the power and he could give it out. Floyd has no power to deter Tito.

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Who was the defensive minded mobile boxer with light power Tito was ever actually able to ko...:scratchchin:

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Oba Carr

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Off topic, but Oba Carr was a really good fighter who happened to come along at the wrong time. He fought Quartey, Oscar and Tito and came up short vs all three, but gave all three a good fight in losing. I remember Tito beating him the most handily of the 3. I didn't appreciate the 90's enough, but looking back it was much tougher back then. Oba Carr would easily be a titlist these days, if not a unified champ.

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I think yori boy campus was at the top of his game when he fought Tito.

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56-0 to be exact.

The KO was brutal, though. Campas never recovered 100% from that loss, IMO.