The Reason why the Mayweather vs Pac pushed through

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

if this were a few years ago when floyd was quicker i see absolutely no way that pac wins. at this point in their careers when they have both aged and slowed a bit, i still see just about no way for pac to win but i do think that there is a 5% chance of pac winning now rather than a 1% chance of winning before.

i would be shocked if pac could even make this fight competitive.

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did you notice floyd just spent a year struggling with maidana?

do you really think pac has no chance?

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Originally Posted by brucelee

I see an 10th-11th round stoppage with Mayweather's corner throwing the towel.


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i really hope so matey

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

if this were a few years ago when floyd was quicker i see absolutely no way that pac wins. at this point in their careers when they have both aged and slowed a bit, i still see just about no way for pac to win but i do think that there is a 5% chance of pac winning now rather than a 1% chance of winning before.

i would be shocked if pac could even make this fight competitive.

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did you notice floyd just spent a year struggling with maidana?

do you really think pac has no chance?

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their styles are completely different. maidana is a lot bigger and comes forwards and pressures a ton. pac doesnt do that. he relies on his speed jumping in and out. pac cant fight coming straight forward and pressure his opponent. thats not his style and ive never seen him do it. pac doesnt have the speed to overwhelm floyd like he does with other opponents.

Bruce, you are overwhelming me with your lexical combinations. We need more threads like this!

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

if this were a few years ago when floyd was quicker i see absolutely no way that pac wins. at this point in their careers when they have both aged and slowed a bit, i still see just about no way for pac to win but i do think that there is a 5% chance of pac winning now rather than a 1% chance of winning before.

i would be shocked if pac could even make this fight competitive.

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did you notice floyd just spent a year struggling with maidana?

do you really think pac has no chance?

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their styles are completely different. maidana is a lot bigger and comes forwards and pressures a ton. pac doesnt do that. he relies on his speed jumping in and out. pac cant fight coming straight forward and pressure his opponent. thats not his style and ive never seen him do it. pac doesnt have the speed to overwhelm floyd like he does with other opponents.

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pac would whack maidana that suggests to me that pac has a good chance regardless of styles

Here we see the Foreman-Frazier-Ali fallacy at play again.... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by brucelee

FLOYD: "I want drug-testing!"
MANNY: "Okay."

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"Okay FULL STOP"?... ??? Really?
um, no... It was more like:

FLOYD: I want drug testing
MANNY: Um, I'm afraid of needles
FLOYD: But you have several tattoos
MANNY: I only want to give blood after the fight
FLOYD: It will be at least a few days before at the latest
MANNY: I'm superstitious about giving a tiny bit of blood days before a fight
FLOYD: You gave blood a few days before fighting Barrera though?
MANNY: Um, I'm just doink my job, talk to my promotor bob arum
ARUM: Manny your PPV numbers are declining, I can't milk you against the likes of Rios and Algeri anymore... I'm cashing you out
MANNY: ee's going to let him fight mih?!?!

I think an older Mayweather beats an older Pacquiao.

Pac relies on speed, volume and that jumping in and out with weird angles and he's lost a bit of that now, whereas Floyd still has the ring IQ.

I see an interesting fight with a SD for Floyd but a few years ago it might have been closer than today (and interesting too).

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

if this were a few years ago when floyd was quicker i see absolutely no way that pac wins. at this point in their careers when they have both aged and slowed a bit, i still see just about no way for pac to win but i do think that there is a 5% chance of pac winning now rather than a 1% chance of winning before.

i would be shocked if pac could even make this fight competitive.

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did you notice floyd just spent a year struggling with maidana?

do you really think pac has no chance?

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their styles are completely different. maidana is a lot bigger and comes forwards and pressures a ton. pac doesnt do that. he relies on his speed jumping in and out. pac cant fight coming straight forward and pressure his opponent. thats not his style and ive never seen him do it. pac doesnt have the speed to overwhelm floyd like he does with other opponents.

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pac would whack maidana that suggests to me that pac has a good chance regardless of styles

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Styles make fights. Just as Castillo and Corrales had a pretty even first fight with Corrales winning, Floyd struggled against Castillo but destroyed Corrales. Floyd has really only struggled against fighters that pressure him and push him to the ropes. Pac won't do that.

Marquez destroyed manny and manny knocked marquez down 3 times in one of their earlier encounters and the fight was still declared a draw!!!

Wake up and smell the baking soda because it really is all about styles and manny really needs to think about retiring because the marquez and injured Bradley losses have exposed his flaws.

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Originally Posted by imp

Marquez destroyed manny and manny knocked marquez down 3 times in one of their earlier encounters and the fight was still declared a draw!!!

Wake up and smell the baking soda because it really is all about styles and manny really needs to think about retiring because the marquez and injured Bradley losses have exposed his flaws.

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You are right it is so obvious. Fans do not care, they have an emotional investment in their fighter and will convince themselves Manny can win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Vby9jHFIY

From 1:28 onward...

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by imp

Marquez destroyed manny and manny knocked marquez down 3 times in one of their earlier encounters and the fight was still declared a draw!!!

Wake up and smell the baking soda because it really is all about styles and manny really needs to think about retiring because the marquez and injured Bradley losses have exposed his flaws.

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You are right it is so obvious. Fans do not care, they have an emotional investment in their fighter and will convince themselves Manny can win.

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All I'm saying is there is still 8 weeks for them to change their mind and support a modern day genius between the ropes.

Manny is a good little fighter and has had some good little runs excluding his 5 losses.

I wish him the best but with Freddie roach still teaching him the same crap its only going one way...

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Originally Posted by imp

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by imp

Marquez destroyed manny and manny knocked marquez down 3 times in one of their earlier encounters and the fight was still declared a draw!!!

Wake up and smell the baking soda because it really is all about styles and manny really needs to think about retiring because the marquez and injured Bradley losses have exposed his flaws.

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You are right it is so obvious. Fans do not care, they have an emotional investment in their fighter and will convince themselves Manny can win.

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All I'm saying is there is still 8 weeks for them to change their mind and support a modern day genius between the ropes.

Manny is a good little fighter and has had some good little runs excluding his 5 losses.

I wish him the best but with Freddie roach still teaching him the same crap its only going one way...

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Let's not overlook the one big change in Manny's training/fight plan... No more PEDs. That's gotta make a difference!

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Originally Posted by brucelee

FLOYD: "I want drug-testing!"
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "You use this gloves!"
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "I want the date May 2!"
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "I want the fight at the MGM!"
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "It's going to be 60-40 in my favor!"
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "If I lose, there will be a rematch!"
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "If you lose, no rematch."
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "The fight will be in this weight."
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "I want the referee to be my countryman - an American."
MANNY: "Okay."
FLOYD: "I will be the one to make the announcement that our fight is on!"
MANNY: "Okay."
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FRIEND: "Hey, Manny. You gave in to all his demands. Are you crazy?"
MANNY: "That's how we treat everyone in our Death Row. We give all they want before the execution."


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Haha correct.

Except for 1 fatal flaw..

The fight isn't on, until Floyd actually shows up in the ring.

There will be some reason, some excuse, why Floyd will have to pull out, wait and see.

Even if he suffers a training "accident" LOL

I just don't think he has what it takes to actually see it through to the end.