Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.
Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.
Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL
Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?
Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.
Yeah Tyson was Tyson.
But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Max Power
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Master
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Max Power
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Master
Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.
Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.
Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL
Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?
Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.
Yeah Tyson was Tyson.
But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!
He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?
Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Max Power
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Master
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Max Power
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Master
Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.
Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.
Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL
Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?
Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.
Yeah Tyson was Tyson.
But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!
He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?
Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.
He is ignorant. The reason why I chose those fighters was because of their hieght. They were the same height as Wlad. Tyson just needs to connect, not even the jaw, just the top of the head. ;)
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Master
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ross
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Max Power
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Master
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Max Power
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Master
Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.
Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.
Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL
Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?
Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.
Yeah Tyson was Tyson.
But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!
He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?
Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.
He is ignorant. The reason why I chose those fighters was because of their hieght. They were the same height as Wlad. Tyson just needs to connect, not even the jaw, just the top of the head. ;)
Tyson once spit into the bucket between rounds and 2 of his cornermen had to be taken away on a stretcher.
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Now for the sake of argument, lets say you slip it, close the distance and hes squared up presenting you a shot at that rib cage with your left hook. You move in and you feel his elbow and forearm in the side/back of your neck and he attempts to stiff arm you push your head down throwing you off balance not allowing you to get your shot off. You option is to clinch and avoid being pushed out so he can get leverage with the left or throw punches with no leverage on it.
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I remember there was a video posted of Lennox Lewis showing Deontay Wilder how to jab 'with speed' and a comment was made that his hand position is what caused him to get nailed with overhand rights. However I think this was tweaked somewhat by his habit of shutting down distance and clamping on the back of the head/ neck with the outstreched lead hand, as a sort of breach fail-safe.
I guess he used it less often that Wladimir Klitschko as, although nither have any kind of inside game, Lennox did have a reasonable uppercut at his disposal.
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Max Power
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Master
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Master
Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.
Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.
Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL
Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?
Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.
Yeah Tyson was Tyson.
But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!
He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?
Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.
Yeah I know exactly who we're talking about. And he was basically equivalent to many of Wlads early 1 round KO opponents, medal or not!
That is a fact!
Were Tyrell to box today, he would never be a factor.
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
@Master
I am not ignorant.
I am sorry if I don't choose to compare apples to oranges like you do.
I suppose your reasoning would be "Ali beat Terrell, same size as Klitschko, therefore he could beat Klitschko too".
It's nonsense! Tyson only ONCE fought an opponent as good as Klitschko and it was the most sickening beating he ever received. The so called "prime" Tyson never fought an opponent 1/10th as good or strong as Klitschko.
Alexander Povetkin is a good analogue for Tyson and he was beaten.
These are just the facts! I didn't make them!
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Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Max Power
@
Master
I am not ignorant.
I am sorry if I don't choose to compare apples to oranges like you do.
I suppose your reasoning would be "Ali beat Terrell, same size as Klitschko, therefore he could beat Klitschko too".
It's nonsense! Tyson only ONCE fought an opponent as good as Klitschko and it was the most sickening beating he ever received. The so called "prime" Tyson never fought an opponent 1/10th as good or strong as Klitschko.
Alexander Povetkin is a good analogue for Tyson and he was beaten.
These are just the facts! I didn't make them!
Alexander Povetkin:p:rolleyes:
;D
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Well I think Povetkin vs Tyson would be an excellent fight! And very evenly matched.
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Max Power
Well I think Povetkin vs Tyson would be an excellent fight! And very evenly matched.
Hardly if Marco Huck can bash Povetkin round;D
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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Master
I am not ignorant.
I am sorry if I don't choose to compare apples to oranges like you do.
I suppose your reasoning would be "Ali beat Terrell, same size as Klitschko, therefore he could beat Klitschko too".
It's nonsense! Tyson only ONCE fought an opponent as good as Klitschko and it was the most sickening beating he ever received. The so called "prime" Tyson never fought an opponent 1/10th as good or strong as Klitschko.
Alexander Povetkin is a good analogue for Tyson and he was beaten.
These are just the facts! I didn't make them!
Totally moronic post again Max.
That Buster Douglas that beat Tyson would most likely beat Wlad.
Wlad is chinny, face it, the fact is no one is good enough at the moment to test him and hit it.
Re: Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body
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certain fighters were blessed by God and were accompanied into the ring with a troop of angels. The Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson that night would beat any single heavyweight in the entire history of the world. That Buster Douglas would have beat Joe Lewis and Rocky Marciano and Muhammad Ali.
Buster was good but a prime Tyson that fought Betbick beats him, so Douglas was beatable, remember Tyson had him down and that was an undisciplined, condomn packed corner men and king trying to poach version.
