Quillen has been mismanaged since he changed promoters and has been used as a pawn for political/business/personal reasons.
Relinquishing his title and not being active has led to him not making weight.
What a prat for wasting his prime years.
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Quillen has been mismanaged since he changed promoters and has been used as a pawn for political/business/personal reasons.
Relinquishing his title and not being active has led to him not making weight.
What a prat for wasting his prime years.
Havent fighters been stripped of titles if they lose even in a none title bout like this in the past?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
If Lee does get to keep the title even if he loses then Quillin has done him a financial favour really because he gets another decent payday to defend against Saunders.
I gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Although Andy Lee can't lose the title, I always think that you can't take the result of a fight with a guy who didn't make weight at face value. If Quillin wins, there's always the doubt that he has taken less out of himself by not making the weight than the champ has in order to make the weight. If the champ wins, then the victory is slightly tarnished because the opponent had to take so much off to even try and make weight that he lost a lot of his strength. All in all, not a good build up to the fight.
Very disappointed to hear this. I'm big on kid chocolate, still looking forward to the festivities tonight but no excuse for quill.
Since I don't know you I can only assume you are joking or a fan of someone that is put in soft and I'm calling for him to sack up. Which is it, are you a fan of guys that are put in soft or clever?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Right there Ron is what you should never do.
I was thinking of renewing my boxnation subscription to record and then watch this tomorrow morning as though live. Now I think I will save my twenty quid for Floyd/Manny.
It is 12 quid now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Surely if Lee wins he gets the title otherwise its a crock Quillen must forfeit the belt
Yeah but £8 registration even though I would actually be re-subscribing. It's nicer to watch fights on the telly even if it is the next morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is 12 quid now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
On virgin I am sure you pay no subscription fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzYeah but £8 registration even though I would actually be re-subscribing. It's nicer to watch fights on the telly even if it is the next morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is 12 quid now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Quillen stays in the shadows. Maybe that is where he belongs.
I don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs??? Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.
Agreed because weight can dictate winning or losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs??? Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.
If a guy feels doing the work at the last minute will cost him in effectiveness, clearly he does. That's on him and obvious lack of preparedness and professionalism. If a fighter can not-will not make weight...move up. God knows we have enough divisions already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron SwansonAgreed because weight can dictate winning or losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI don't think he ducked Korobov but let his strings be pulled by Haymon. But it did not look good at all. Still this growing attitude of "Meh, weight limit whatever" just kills me. I def think guys...groomed and steered would be stars...blow weight just looking at the next showcase opportunity. Its not like they arrive at the scales on 1 days notice ffs??? Quillin had a year to plan, practice and come in on weight. Guys with "a future" just throw money at the fine knowing the bigger payoff is ahead with a top notch performance. They...managers...can afford it. Its a terrible trend now with guys getting a promotional push.Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaI gave up on him when he ducked Korobov. Should not have done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Honestly if a guy does not make weight, I don't think a win should be factor in rankings at all.