Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
It's hard to say because the only real "gift" decision Floyd got was against Castillo 13 years ago, before Floyd had any real power in the sport. Regardless of what people might want to think, DLH and Maidana didn't beat Floyd. We've seen Floyd get split and majority decisions in fights he clearly won.
I'm not going to pretend to know what goes on behind the scenes: judges have the power to influence BIG money, so it would be foolish to think they were incorruptible. Nobody can say for sure if Manny can win a decision against Floyd or not, but personally I don't see it as a big issue. I don't think Manny can physically outbox Floyd over 12 rounds anyway. If he's going to win the fight, it's going to be by stoppage IMO.
So hopefully both guys are paranoid about the judges, and it puts more pressure on them to go out and push hard for a finish.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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g3org3
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In my eyes, I don't see Manny getting the nod even if he puts a serious beating on ole floyd.
Manny HAS to get a KO. Vegas judges and refs are corrupt as f**k!! Why does Floyd never fight anywhere else? lol. And what ref/judge would dare go against vegas' #1 draw??? I wouldn't be surprised the the decision/scorecard has already been made.
I just hope Manny has been working on cutting off the ring, cuz come may 2 its gonna be another Mayweather track meet. go Manny!!!
You chat some shit if anything floyds going to get fucked over, he's had some right dodgy score cards over the last few years. I have no doubt if the fights remotely close pacman will get the nod
I agree with you on that. I've had a feeling if Pac wins 4 rounds they will give him the nod.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.
I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.
IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?
Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.
Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum ;D
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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Master
Although Floyd has had some close decisions he is always on the right end of them so I believe Vegas will not allow him to lose. Even a close victory will mean a rematch.
America has 0 love for Floyd...last I checked Vegas is in America.
Judges in vegas have already tried to screw him so I don't know what you are talking about....hell....you don't even know what you're talking about;D
Tell that to the judge who gave Floyd bail just so he could fight and contribute to the economy of Vegas.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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Julius Rain
What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.
I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.
IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?
Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.
Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum ;D
That bit sounds a lot like what Arum is doing to Pacman, putting his cashcow up for the slaughter once he milked everything from it and there are no other options left.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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#1FightFan
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Ron Swanson
Get all your excuses lined up, no surprise.
Every time I imagine you drinking Clamato juice pretending it's blood as you make your excuses and I laugh and I laugh.
at least im confident enough to show who I am, instead of being a fugly chud of a wannabe badass- birdboy!! lol. u are probably 5 foot 5, buck-toothed & 300 lbs. a bowling ball with feet!
Uh.. your picture is actually you?!?
http://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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Manos de Piedra
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Julius Rain
What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.
I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.
IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?
Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.
Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum ;D
That bit sounds a lot like what Arum is doing to Pacman, putting his cashcow up for the slaughter once he milked everything from it and there are no other options left.
Yep.....
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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Master
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corvette
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Master
Although Floyd has had some close decisions he is always on the right end of them so I believe Vegas will not allow him to lose. Even a close victory will mean a rematch.
America has 0 love for Floyd...last I checked Vegas is in America.
Judges in vegas have already tried to screw him so I don't know what you are talking about....hell....you don't even know what you're talking about;D
Tell that to the judge who gave Floyd bail just so he could fight and contribute to the economy of Vegas.
That was not a boxing judge.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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p4pking
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#1FightFan
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Originally Posted by
Ron Swanson
Get all your excuses lined up, no surprise.
Every time I imagine you drinking Clamato juice pretending it's blood as you make your excuses and I laugh and I laugh.
at least im confident enough to show who I am, instead of being a fugly chud of a wannabe badass- birdboy!! lol. u are probably 5 foot 5, buck-toothed & 300 lbs. a bowling ball with feet!
Uh.. your picture is actually you?!?
http://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif
hahahahahaha
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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Manos de Piedra
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Julius Rain
What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.
I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.
IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?
Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.
Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum ;D
That bit sounds a lot like what Arum is doing to Pacman, putting his cashcow up for the slaughter once he milked everything from it and there are no other options left.
so Aurms been trying to casout pac for 5 years? Lol. Or it's Floyd at the end of his big contract with NBC and very near retirement. Haymon has hundreds of fighters for his contract for NBC, he planned well with out Floyd And ofcourse he would force Floyd to end it with Pac.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
Manos de Piedra
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.
I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.
IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?
Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.
Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum ;D
That bit sounds a lot like what Arum is doing to Pacman, putting his cashcow up for the slaughter once he milked everything from it and there are no other options left.
so Aurms been trying to casout pac for 5 years? Lol. Or it's Floyd at the end of his big contract with NBC and very near retirement. Haymon has hundreds of fighters for his contract for NBC, he planned well with out Floyd And ofcourse he would force Floyd to end it with Pac.
Arum has Crawford.
He is glad to finally throw Manny's juiced-up sloppy ass under the bus.
What happened to Bob's magical outdoor Stadium???;D
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
Manos de Piedra
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.
I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.
IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?
Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.
Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum ;D
That bit sounds a lot like what Arum is doing to Pacman, putting his cashcow up for the slaughter once he milked everything from it and there are no other options left.
so Aurms been trying to casout pac for 5 years? Lol. Or it's Floyd at the end of his big contract with NBC and very near retirement. Haymon has hundreds of fighters for his contract for NBC, he planned well with out Floyd And ofcourse he would force Floyd to end it with Pac.
No he hasn't been trying to do anything other than milk pac before he gives him for the slaughter. Arum is a lying piece of shit so don't believe a word that comes from his mouth. He's the guy who was going on about some stadium that mould make more money (corvette has already mentioned).
All I'm saying is that Bob Arum is a snake. I have nothing against Pac I like the guy and I believe he just does as he's told and Arum take advantage of it.
It's pointless pointing fingers now with the fight less than 2 weeks away.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
I've yelled at too many flat screens and cursed too many faceless judges to think that any one fighter is immune to being fooked. Really though its Manny who is fan friendly and at the front of most of the promo, if anything that can easily trickle down to officials.
Re: The BIG Question: can Manny get a Decision against Floyd in Vegas???
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corvette
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Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
Manos de Piedra
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
What people are realizing his Floyd has won all of his fights by pure skills of his. He never really needed the judges aside from 1 or 2 times (castillo,maidana). I think those were just good luck on floyds part getting the nod.
I don't think this is a big question at all. I think if there is somebody that rivals Floyds Vegas connection, that would be Pacman. Pac is good friends with Politicians in Nevada, California and DC.
IMO it is Flomos who would need to worry because it doesn't matter to Al Haymon anymore if Floyd stays undefeated in his last fight. Haymon can't make money from a retired Floyd, why do you guys think this fight with Pac finally happen?
Cashcow getting cashout. Just like Oscar vs Pacman, feed the cow to the wolf. Holyfield spoke about it, he said don't tell people about your retirement plan because it's in your last few fights you find out how many friends and enemies you truly have.
Remember when Floyd said he would never do business with Bob Arum and that is why the Pacman fight wouldn't happen? Too bad for him Al Haymon doesn't mind doing business with Bob Arum ;D
That bit sounds a lot like what Arum is doing to Pacman, putting his cashcow up for the slaughter once he milked everything from it and there are no other options left.
so Aurms been trying to casout pac for 5 years? Lol. Or it's Floyd at the end of his big contract with NBC and very near retirement. Haymon has hundreds of fighters for his contract for NBC, he planned well with out Floyd And ofcourse he would force Floyd to end it with Pac.
Arum has Crawford.
He is glad to finally throw Manny's juiced-up sloppy ass under the bus.
What happened to Bob's magical outdoor Stadium???;D
Crawfold is nowhere near being a household name so sit down hoe. The kid is good but he has no following.
What magical outdoor Stadium? Never heard of this.
You flomos underrated Bob's loyalty to Pac. Bob is a boss and you clowns severly underrated Pac's Boss statues. Bob knows Pac has many political friends and not just in the Philippines. Betraying Pac is harder than betraying some rich ghetto boy who would never get anybody to vouch for him. Anyways you fags would never believe this but thought I'd at least try to enlight you clowns that can't accept Pac's ability in and out of the ring.
