Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Bayless is the best in the business. Just a few months back before the announced and before the May/Maidana fight we were saying that he would be a prime fit.
Perhaps the May/Maidana fight was one where May would have won anyway, regardless of the ref.
Personally, and we need to look into race neutral ref's for large fights like this. Just like we look for race neutral judges for large fights like this along with country neutral.
Smoger, perhaps?
Race should never be an issue in a fight. I've just watched the Pacquiao Hatton fight where Bayless was the ref and he did an outstanding job minimizing the holding and roughhousing which was in favor of Hatton. Bayless is an excellent ref. Truth be told, I would love Smoger to to be the ref here but Kenny Bayless is my second choice.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
Bayless jumps in too quick.
I don't care for his style at all.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Bayless is the best in the business. Just a few months back before the announced and before the May/Maidana fight we were saying that he would be a prime fit.
Perhaps the May/Maidana fight was one where May would have won anyway, regardless of the ref.
Personally, and we need to look into race neutral ref's for large fights like this. Just like we look for race neutral judges for large fights like this along with country neutral.
Smoger, perhaps?
Are you having a laugh?
You've gone from acknowledging Kenny Bayless as the "best in the business" to insinuating that he can't be trusted to do his job because he will favour the black man. Pathetic.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Bayless is the best in the business. Just a few months back before the announced and before the May/Maidana fight we were saying that he would be a prime fit.
Perhaps the May/Maidana fight was one where May would have won anyway, regardless of the ref.
Personally, and we need to look into race neutral ref's for large fights like this. Just like we look for race neutral judges for large fights like this along with country neutral.
Smoger, perhaps?
Are you having a laugh?
You've gone from acknowledging Kenny Bayless as the "best in the business" to insinuating that he can't be trusted to do his job because he will favour the black man. Pathetic.
He passed pathetic a long time ago.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
corvette
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ono
Manny would get beaten up on the inside anyway, so it wouldn't be to his advantage to try and fight there. Therefore, i don't see how Bayliss gives Mayweather any advantage. He's a strong ref and a good choice.
Yep.....
Inside is within reach, not just in a clinch. Pacquiao has excellent power to put hurt on Floyd on the inside. He covers up with both hands and punches his way back outside. On the inside he is swarming his opponent with combinations which is what everyone loves about his game. This is why Floyd will hold or of course time his counter so he won't have to.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
corvette
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Originally Posted by
ono
Manny would get beaten up on the inside anyway, so it wouldn't be to his advantage to try and fight there. Therefore, i don't see how Bayliss gives Mayweather any advantage. He's a strong ref and a good choice.
Yep.....
Inside is within reach, not just in a clinch. Pacquiao has excellent power to put hurt on Floyd on the inside. He covers up with both hands and punches his way back outside. On the inside he is swarming his opponent with combinations which is what everyone loves about his game. This is why Floyd will hold or of course time his counter so he won't have to.
The shorter arms actually give Pac more leverage on his punches at an inside distance.mayweather has the edge on technique and Pac has it on leverage and volume.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
ono
Manny would get beaten up on the inside anyway, so it wouldn't be to his advantage to try and fight there. Therefore, i don't see how Bayliss gives Mayweather any advantage. He's a strong ref and a good choice.
Beat me to it. I was about to say the same thing. Pac has no inside game at all, so the ref breaking them up will be an advantage to pac and a disadvantage for Floyd, as I believe he will be looking to tie up an smother some of pac's work.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
ykdadamaja
Bayless is the best in the business. Just a few months back before the announced and before the May/Maidana fight we were saying that he would be a prime fit.
Perhaps the May/Maidana fight was one where May would have won anyway, regardless of the ref.
Personally, and we need to look into race neutral ref's for large fights like this. Just like we look for race neutral judges for large fights like this along with country neutral.
Smoger, perhaps?
Race has nothing to do with it at all. Bayliss has been the ref for pac before and did a great job.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
corvette
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Originally Posted by
ono
Manny would get beaten up on the inside anyway, so it wouldn't be to his advantage to try and fight there. Therefore, i don't see how Bayliss gives Mayweather any advantage. He's a strong ref and a good choice.
Yep.....
Inside is within reach, not just in a clinch. Pacquiao has excellent power to put hurt on Floyd on the inside. He covers up with both hands and punches his way back outside. On the inside he is swarming his opponent with combinations which is what everyone loves about his game. This is why Floyd will hold or of course time his counter so he won't have to.
When Pac covers up he leaves his body exposed.
Floyd will be on those ribs like BBQ sauce.
Pac has zero inside game.
Everybody that fights Floyd are surprised how strong he is on the inside....Hatton and Mosley(to name a few) both said they were not expecting that from him.
Look how easilly he had Canelo backing out of there.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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smashup
It's official, good choice and a strong ref 😊
Bring back Mills Lane !
In all seriousness - How many were really in the running ?
Steve Smoger ?
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...psntdyvqd2.jpg
Who looks like the late Paul Bearer ?
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...psjy1cghps.jpg
No question Smoger is one of the best refs out there. Unfortunately, he's a court judge in New Jersey so he rarely strays outside of the state to referee fights. Therefore, you won't get to see him officiate in any of the big fights in Las Vegas any time soon.
Tony Weeks ?
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps70omo27c.jpg
He's consistently one of the top officials in the sport. I like his style because he lets the fighters fight. He's never too quick to break fighters on the inside and lets guys throw if they have a hand free.
I've never heard any controversy surrounding Tony Weeks. He refed the Jose Luis Castillo and Diego Corrales fight (Say no more)
Joe Cortez ?
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...pslmwcwhs4.jpg
I think he'll never live stigma of him fumbling around the Mayweather - Ortiz fight down, not knowing what he's doing with, missing Mayweather knock Ortiz out, because he's too busy looking at the time kepper, I think that's his Richard Stele (Julio Cesear Chavez - Meldrink Taylor) moment. Something that will stick with him no matter what he does
Kenny Bayless ?
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/o...psiqzewfl7.jpg
To me he's the best guy out there, he's more mobile than Smoger who I feel is his only real challenger. He seems to always stop a fight at the perfect time, he breaks the fighters appropriately, and he never has any controversy surrounding him. He's the consummate professional.
He's mentioned little during the broadcast of a fight, almost invisible in the ring, as he gives the fighters plenty of space and isn't an overbearing presence.
I have one problem with Bayliss though
I'd tell him to put on some deodrant or don't were a nylon shirt or freeeze sweat glands before this fight. He sweats more than Barry White, Luther Vandross And Elvis put together. Hell - He sweats more than the fighters in the ring.
Don't wanna be seeing his sweat patches on that nylon blue shirt, there will be kids watching, not to mention billion other adults (lol)
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
worst news for this fight ever!!! manny hasnt a chance now. bayless wont let him work.
i dont even feel like ordering this MF fight now!!!!
where is mills lane or mitch halpern when u need them???
anyone but bought-out BAYLESS!! kenny is gonna have a good year financially.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
worst news for this fight ever!!! manny hasnt a chance now. bayless wont let him work.
i dont even feel like ordering this MF fight now!!!!
where is mills lane or mitch halpern when u need them???
anyone but bought-out BAYLESS!! kenny is gonna have a good year financially.
Manny doesn't work on the inside...watch some fights,Dracula.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
worst news for this fight ever!!! manny hasnt a chance now. bayless wont let him work.
i dont even feel like ordering this MF fight now!!!!
where is mills lane or mitch halpern when u need them???
anyone but bought-out BAYLESS!! kenny is gonna have a good year financially.
I was reading this thread wondering when u would pop up with ur bull shit.
Re: Kenny B is the ref for Floyd v Pac
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Originally Posted by
g3org3
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Originally Posted by
#1FightFan
worst news for this fight ever!!! manny hasnt a chance now. bayless wont let him work.
i dont even feel like ordering this MF fight now!!!!
where is mills lane or mitch halpern when u need them???
anyone but bought-out BAYLESS!! kenny is gonna have a good year financially.
I was reading this thread wondering when u would pop up with ur bull shit.
He popped right out his casket with his typical nonsense.