Wlad wants Wilder in unification fight

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

Wlad should have been dq'd last night. I have never seen anything like that in 45 years.

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Was he as bad as that! He could not be as bad as he was against Russian.

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It was as bad as usual, but this was the first time I had the feeling that Wlad thinks he can't fight (and win) any other way. Wlad was right on the edge of being DQed and was still using holding tactics: trapping a glove; using his weight to hold Jennings against the ropes.
We haven't even talked about Wlad's pushing or his half-assed jab/straight-arm/blinder he used all fight long.
I guess he's been allowed to fight that way in Germany for so long, he can't fight any other way or thinks he can't.

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!00% agree. this is why if he fights Wilder the fight will be held in Europe.

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Originally Posted by corvette

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I honestly don't think Wilder is more diverse and two handed than Jennings. This barn burner will happen but don't see him with the beard, footing or ability to get under Wlad. Fighting Wlad tall on the heel is a march to the boneyard. Wilder has that 'eraser' but he sets a lot of bad patterns..and doesn't bend.

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As if Vlad doesn't have bad patterns.

I don't see Vlad with the beard...or stanima.

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Up until his last fight Wilder had little to no seasoning facing adversity, guys who actually came to win. He was smart vs straight line Stiv but was pretty basic with jab-right jab right and backing straight with head high when actually engaged. He has the legs of a middleweight and his stamina will be taxed entirely different as Wlad does all that mauling and drunken buddy hanging on pushing him around. I don't see Wilder taking the shots Jennings did or nearly the herky jerky style to get under many.

I want to see any fight that poses a real danger to Wlad!!!



Damn it............. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

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Originally Posted by corvette

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I honestly don't think Wilder is more diverse and two handed than Jennings. This barn burner will happen but don't see him with the beard, footing or ability to get under Wlad. Fighting Wlad tall on the heel is a march to the boneyard. Wilder has that 'eraser' but he sets a lot of bad patterns..and doesn't bend.

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As if Vlad doesn't have bad patterns.

I don't see Vlad with the beard...or stanima.

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Up until his last fight Wilder had little to no seasoning facing adversity, guys who actually came to win. He was smart vs straight line Stiv but was pretty basic with jab-right jab right and backing straight with head high when actually engaged. He has the legs of a middleweight and his stamina will be taxed entirely different as Wlad does all that mauling and drunken buddy hanging on pushing him around. I don't see Wilder taking the shots Jennings did or nearly the herky jerky style to get under many.

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As if Vlad isn't basic as they come.

Vlad's stanima is too shitty to tax anybody..he was blowing like a steam engine against Jennings..and gassed completely against the dreaded Ross Purrity.

Wilder will show him speed and power he's never seen before.

I think both Wilder or Fury have a legit shot almost on size alone. Neither of these guys are going to have to duck and dive in to attempt to reach him before getting double gloved on the brain stem and pulled down. I think Fury's chances are actually better then Wilders just because of the way he fights.
He's awkward and unorthodox, takes chances and can throw a nice change up switching to southpaw.
I also doubt that Haymon lets Wilder anywhere near Wlad at this time and will milk Mr Wilder for a year or two. Maybe Jennings will get another shot or even Briggs. I just dont see Wilder going to Europe.

Wlads post fight press gig was interesting in that he seemed to apologize because how he put it, the fight was not as exciting an ending as Pulev. That is quite a statement. You see in that fight he was able to get away with what he did last night but against a guy who was also incapable of any movement at all and stood right in front of him. Somehow knocking a pumpkin off a fence post after grabbing the object on several occasions first is exciting.

Some kind of collective protest needs to be launched against this continuous holding in his fights. Its not even boxing. He double grabbed behind the head more times last night then Ali did in his entire career. This is not some puzzle or boxing style that an opponent has to figure out.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Wilder's the toughest test out there for him. A guy taller than him with one-punch KO power in both hands, younger, athletic, fast and is going to be harder to grab and hold than the shorter guys he usually fights. Very very dangerous fight, can't wait to see it.

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Wlad knocks him out in 5. Jennings is better than Wilder. You will see. What Jennings did not have is ko power. Wlad won't let Wilder hit him, at all.

People seriously underestimate Jennings high guard.

Neither Wlad nor Wilder is remotely so hard to hit. Let's see these huge punching huge athletes throw down. These aren't Primo Carneras, they are athletes, rare athletes.

Wlad will beat Wilder and he'll do it easily, he'll beat Fury and he'll make that look easy too. Jennings surprised me by going the distance, and he put in a decent performance, but it just proves Wlad is THE APEX of the division.....it's just him alone at the top with everyone else looking up.

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

I think both Wilder or Fury have a legit shot almost on size alone. Neither of these guys are going to have to duck and dive in to attempt to reach him before getting double gloved on the brain stem and pulled down. I think Fury's chances are actually better then Wilders just because of the way he fights.
He's awkward and unorthodox, takes chances and can throw a nice change up switching to southpaw.
I also doubt that Haymon lets Wilder anywhere near Wlad at this time and will milk Mr Wilder for a year or two. Maybe Jennings will get another shot or even Briggs. I just dont see Wilder going to Europe.

Wlads post fight press gig was interesting in that he seemed to apologize because how he put it, the fight was not as exciting an ending as Pulev. That is quite a statement. You see in that fight he was able to get away with what he did last night but against a guy who was also incapable of any movement at all and stood right in front of him. Somehow knocking a pumpkin off a fence post after grabbing the object on several occasions first is exciting.

Some kind of collective protest needs to be launched against this continuous holding in his fights. Its not even boxing. He double grabbed behind the head more times last night then Ali did in his entire career. This is not some puzzle or boxing style that an opponent has to figure out.

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Wilder has a better chance, in my opinion, with a much faster delivery system.
Wlad vs Fury has a big chance to become a hugfest with short, intermittent outbreaks of punching. Hell, let's face it, they'll both be hugfests if the fight happens in Europe.
Protest? I was thinking about that the night of the fight. What if everyone decided they didn't want to fight Wlad? Their excuse? Wlad is allowed to break the rules, so they have no chance of winning, plus they would rather make less money to have a fair chance against other opponents. Would never work because money has every fighters attention, that's what it's about.
Any ideas for a protest about the holding, pushing, and straight arming Wlad is allowed to get away with in every fight.
I read an article about both Klits having a low opinion of Don King for his cheating ways. I wonder what they both think about Wlad's fighting style. They probably wouldn't have much to say, like all cheaters it seems to be OK as long as they benefit.

The HW division, like any other is akin to a pack of lions. At some point a young lion with no experience of holding down a pack-decides the old king has been there long enough.

Sometimes two young HW's will meet, but when there is a legend holding the throne-it will take a new scrapper to end the reign.


War Wilder War.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpdGFK_mqZI
2:49, 7:14, 7:30


But Wlad is the ONLY boxer, ONLY heavyweight champion to EVER EVER EVER EVER bend rules and I agree....he must be stopped! For the greatness of boxing to return to it's rightful owners, those who never ever ever ever ever bend rules.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edlGrizK1Jo
Only Wlad holds and only Wlad cheats


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3oyrq4Q5gM
Only Wlad cheats, only Wlad

.....yuuuuuuuup

Let's not go overboard El Kabong and be melodramatic.

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Originally Posted by Master

Let's not go overboard El Kabong and be melodramatic.

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Just providing a little background info

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpdGFK_mqZI
2:49, 7:14, 7:30


But Wlad is the ONLY boxer, ONLY heavyweight champion to EVER EVER EVER EVER bend rules and I agree....he must be stopped! For the greatness of boxing to return to it's rightful owners, those who never ever ever ever ever bend rules.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edlGrizK1Jo
Only Wlad holds and only Wlad cheats


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3oyrq4Q5gM
Only Wlad cheats, only Wlad

.....yuuuuuuuup

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We all know most fighters will push the rules as far as the referee will let them, but show me a fighter who has consistently been allowed to push, bend, and out and out break the rules like Wlad. Hell, the man can't fight any other way now, you have to take away points to get his attention and then it's iffy whether he'll stop.

Wilder needs one more big fight before taking on Wlad.

Let's face it... he's only gonna get one shot. He loses to Wlad... Wlad checks him off his list and will be that much closer to retirement without a single remaining hazard in his way. I say this because no offense Fury fans, but I just don't see Tyson having any chance against Wlad. Wilder had a good fight against Stiverne... naysayers be damned. Stiverne was shot... Stiverne was never any good.... Stiverne was overrated... blah, blah, blah. Same old shit that gets rehashed every time someone does something great so we don't have to give him that much credit. But it's only one fight. Wilder needs someone else of Stiverne's caliber to give him some championship rounds. THEN... he'll be ready for Wlad. I just don't want Wilder to waste his one and only shot. Wlad won't give him a second one.