Floyds legs..

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Mind, I always respect how Floyd comes in in prime condition. Manny looked a bit loose, flabby and old to me. If it isnt the injury then his hunger has gone.

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Since there was no injury... It must be fair to say Manny just isn't that good without PEDs and/or when he isn't fighting Floyd's or someone else's leftovers.

Let's not talk about peds or past opponents or even hunger.

No more excuses.

The better man won and that's it.

If pac won he would have been the better man and floyds hunger has left the game ages ago.

The legs on floyd have held up and he stayed of the ropes this time and controlled the fight well.

His legs and footwork are vital at this point.

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Originally Posted by ruthless rocco

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

Mind, I always respect how Floyd comes in in prime condition. Manny looked a bit loose, flabby and old to me. If it isnt the injury then his hunger has gone.

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Since there was no injury... It must be fair to say Manny just isn't that good without PEDs and/or when he isn't fighting Floyd's or someone else's leftovers.

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Either,

You're in Love with Floyd,

Or, Manny dropped a 'load' in your mouth.

Which is it ?

"Tell me Rocco, just what is that is bothering you about Manny."

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Roach comments have a lot to do with raising this issue.
Floyd also is correct that if he uses his legs: fans will say he ran.
If he stands like he did with Corley or Cotto, fans will say his legs are gone. In other words he can't win that argument.

I have an argument : Floyd has great movement, that is based on legs.
An example of foot work is Bhop.
He is the master. Floyd's foot work can't compare with Bhop's.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

A person would have to be blind to not see the difference in movement from his days at 130 to now. Or to not see how Floyd is off balance much more now which almost never happened until about 2006 and has increased little by little. Until 2014 it increased significantly. But the movement he needed against Pacquiao wasn't the movement he needed against Corrales. Against Pac he simply needed to be able to half step back and reset as Pac initiated to make Pac reach and exposed for the counter. That movement is still there. That movement will still be there if they do it again in 2016.

As for the tell tale signs. The answer is balance. Footwork is about balance. To be in position to defend and attack. If you are not able to do both because of where your feet are then your footwork is failing.

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I'm definitely blind then. I saw Floyd move laterally often and he seemed as fast as ever. May have been the picture size though, I only have a 52 inch T.V. Wonder if they have any options in Braille...????

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

A person would have to be blind to not see the difference in movement from his days at 130 to now. Or to not see how Floyd is off balance much more now which almost never happened until about 2006 and has increased little by little. Until 2014 it increased significantly. But the movement he needed against Pacquiao wasn't the movement he needed against Corrales. Against Pac he simply needed to be able to half step back and reset as Pac initiated to make Pac reach and exposed for the counter. That movement is still there. That movement will still be there if they do it again in 2016.

As for the tell tale signs. The answer is balance. Footwork is about balance. To be in position to defend and attack. If you are not able to do both because of where your feet are then your footwork is failing.

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Mr Ron Swanson,

You're so { 'anal' ytical }. You saw all that in Floyd. What perception.
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I see more than that in Floyd Mr. Paxtom. I think physically he is near gone. He's just smarter than people is all. People still think he is fast, I disagree. He is still quick and his timing makes people think he is fast. I think he looks downright ragged the last 2 years. He's just so much smarter than his opponents it doesn't show. I think Floyd is desperate to be done with boxing because he knows how far he has slipped physically.

Mr. Ron Swanson,

It is understandable to state that Floyd has 'slipped' some at Age; 38.

How much has he slipped, maybe 10%.

That is far from being done.

But the man does pride himself in being at the 'best' physical condition possible
at all times. Lets give him that.
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