Riddick is sticking the jab. Riddick is landing the uppercut and left hook on the inside.
George Foreman got outboxed by Alex Stewart.
George Foreman got outboxed by Tommy Morrison.
George Foreman got outboxed by Jimmy Young.
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Riddick is sticking the jab. Riddick is landing the uppercut and left hook on the inside.
George Foreman got outboxed by Alex Stewart.
George Foreman got outboxed by Tommy Morrison.
George Foreman got outboxed by Jimmy Young.
Seriously, what Foreman are we talking about?
70's or 90's?
Foreman was great at parrying jabs, and had a great way of walking uppercuts on top guys that would come at him Bowe would have eaten a fair few of these himself. Bowe had a good chin though although never really tested against proper punchers...
Chin aside, actually quite an even fight, the more I think about it. Bowe probably the better conditioned man so yeah, the chin thing... Hmmmm.
Bowe got schooled by Andrew Golota and floored by Evander Holyfield....Big George didn't get floored by Evander and he was in his 40's at the time as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
That was washed up Bowe though.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Yeah Bowe got floored by Evander, anyone can get floored. The point is Bowe got up and KO'd Holyfield like a boss.
Anyone can get floored true, but look OLD George Foreman hit so hard that guys who were typically brawlers and power punchers like Tommy Morrison chose to BOX against him rather than try and knock him out....George was 40+ years old....the amount of respect Foreman got because of his power was unprecedented.
Bowe was a good fighter and had he stuck to the hit & don't get hit he could win a UD, but if he got stupid and allowed George in range then I'm sorry Bowe just got hit too much. If Tyson hadn't been in prison at the time I doubt Bowe would have kept the title all that long after winning it off of Holyfield.
I'm not arguing George could hit hard, he was clearly a freak of nature. But Holyfield boxed him, Morrison boxed him, Stewart boxed him (and got jobbed), china chin Michael Moorer boxed him and won every round until he got dumb and caught... I just don't see Bowe not being able to do his work with that beautiful jab he had and his great inside fighting. Prime Bowe didn't get hit often.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Bowe's list of opponents does not feature any fighter....ANY fighter with power even close to Foreman's. Bowe got lazy on the inside often...that would have led to his demise vs Foreman.
Bowe got tagged all night by Herbie Hide, if he's gotten hit like that by George the fight would not have gone 6 minutes.
FACT
Well that's kind of a tall order given the fact that Foreman's power is considered to be second to maybe only Earnie Shavers.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Bowe fought guys with HUGE power though. Herbie Hide was a power-punching machine with insane power, although he was somewhat undersized.
Again though, George had GREAT power but it wasn't the be all, end all of any hypothetical boxing match.
He landed bombs on Holyfield and couldn't get him out of there. Couldn't get china-chinned Morrison out of there. He got a gift vs Stewart, who was previously stopped by Moorer, Holyfield and Tyson.
Just because the guy hit hard doesn't mean he was going to get everyone he fought out of there. Bowe had a great chin, he boxed very well on the inside and outside and he had a lot of stopping power himself. I don't know why we assume he couldn't handle Foreman's power when guys like Stewart and Morrison did. What did they do better than Bowe?
We are talking 90 92' Foreman right? Its not as if he was hard to hit and while he may have stayed on his feet Holyfield bounced 20+ hooks off his head and had him badly buckled. Cooney rocked him, even a haymaker Ken Lakusta caught him badly when George got careless and walked straight in after knocking him down. Stewarts problem was he kept his hands in his pockets late and let it slip away. Not a robbery but a clear sign that fast hands and a stiff jab would and did keep power at bay. Stewart had a chin often made of rice krispies and again the follow up for Foreman wasn't there. Bowe was a slob but in that specific window, at that time and where he was, he could be tremendous at range and wasn't a complete dummy to fall in.
Out side of say a Moorer thing happening i say Foreman loses to any version of Bowe besides the version of Bowe after the Holyfeild fights. I will say this i think Foreman was the hardest hitting hw of all time at least that is what Holyfeild said he got hit by Bowe,Tyson,Moorer and Lewis hard hitters.
Yes. Shannon Briggs, Evander (so I heard) and even Ali in later years said that the hardest they'd ever been hit by a boxer was by Foreman.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Riddick Bowe was a 'dog with fleas'.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
It's a battle of jab that Bowe would win in the first half but lose in the second half... BUT don't underestimate the inside fighting which would be MUCH better by Bowe with the compact uppercut
He avoided hard punchers in general and Lennox Lewis in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Then again though, even though Foreman did fight hard out banger Morrison, he openly declined to face Lewis also.
Although he did do it with much greater style and dignity than did Riddick.
I still don't think Foreman could beat Bowe under any realistic circumstances!