Re: Who do you want to see Hopkins end his career against?
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C.J.Rock
Ive been a Hopkins fan all along but especially since I met him & Bouie when I was with Quincy Taylor who was defending his WBC middleweight title against Keith Holmes on a Tyson undercard & got blatantly robbed by Richard Steele. Knowing Quincy was down about being robbed Bernard came to him & said. " Don't let it get to you you & me are the two best MW in the world we need to get it on" I forget who Bernard was fighting but he won easy. Had a long chat with Nard & Bouie both were great guys.
Really I'd like to see Bernard retire now He's got nothing else really to prove to anyone he is a boa fide ATG We'll never see his like again. I know his pride wont want him to go out on the loss to Kovalev bt is pride worth risking his health Bernard is one of the very best
Meh I thought it was a good stoppage against Holmes, and Quincy won the title off a washed up Hawk anyway.
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Re: Who do you want to see Hopkins end his career against?
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Jimanuel Boogustus
Ward/ Stevenson/Brahmer.
I have to say , the last fight in the World I would want to see would be Ward v Hopkins . Both great boxers, but a stylistic nightmare. Spoiling Hugfest .
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Vendettos
I can't respect hopkins over the last decade.
He hasn't come to fight and had bored crowds on his way to tactical and dirty wins.
He hasn't had a stoppage on roughly 10 years and doesn't exactly dazzle with skills.
He has tarnished his legacy a lot and will be remembered by me as "that old guy that wouldn't go away" instead of "legend middleweight".
To be honest , I used to think that he shouldn't get any favours because he's old. If he wants to be classed as a World Champion, he should fight the best.
To his credit, he had the balls to do exactly that, taking on Kovalev when People like Stevenson don't really want to. Ok , so he lost, but at least he got in there.
I understand this way of thinking about not liking people if they're not KO merchants, but I don't subscribe to it. However, not respecting their achievements is a completely different thing, and that I don't understand.
the way I see it , is that if he is boring crowds with tactical and dirty wins, it is up to the opponents he faces to stop that happening, like Kovalev did. it's all well and good saying he should entertain, but that's Bollocks really.
What winners do first and foremost is WIN! everything after that is a bonus.
For his last fight, I personally would like to see him fight Froch. I reckon he beats Froch , as he has too much ringcraft, and furthermore I firmly believe Froch at best is a bit worried about that and at worst Knows it!
good speach
thank you. and not wishing to appear pedantic, but I think it's "Speech." ;)
i didnt think it was a good speech
I never said you did,................but you did.:confused: Still , at least you're spelling Speech correctly now. ;D
Don't mention it.
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Primo Carnera
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Vendettos
I can't respect hopkins over the last decade.
He hasn't come to fight and had bored crowds on his way to tactical and dirty wins.
He hasn't had a stoppage on roughly 10 years and doesn't exactly dazzle with skills.
He has tarnished his legacy a lot and will be remembered by me as "that old guy that wouldn't go away" instead of "legend middleweight".
To be honest , I used to think that he shouldn't get any favours because he's old. If he wants to be classed as a World Champion, he should fight the best.
To his credit, he had the balls to do exactly that, taking on Kovalev when People like Stevenson don't really want to. Ok , so he lost, but at least he got in there.
I understand this way of thinking about not liking people if they're not KO merchants, but I don't subscribe to it. However, not respecting their achievements is a completely different thing, and that I don't understand.
the way I see it , is that if he is boring crowds with tactical and dirty wins, it is up to the opponents he faces to stop that happening, like Kovalev did. it's all well and good saying he should entertain, but that's Bollocks really.
What winners do first and foremost is WIN! everything after that is a bonus.
For his last fight, I personally would like to see him fight Froch. I reckon he beats Froch , as he has too much ringcraft, and furthermore I firmly believe Froch at best is a bit worried about that and at worst Knows it!
good speach
thank you. and not wishing to appear pedantic, but I think it's "Speech." ;)
i didnt think it was a good speech
I never said you did,................but you did.:confused: Still , at least you're spelling Speech correctly now. ;D
Don't mention it.
i spelt speach right in the first place
i dont know what youre on about
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He needs to look back at the Kov fight and just announce his retirement.
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erics44
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
Primo Carnera
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Vendettos
I can't respect hopkins over the last decade.
He hasn't come to fight and had bored crowds on his way to tactical and dirty wins.
He hasn't had a stoppage on roughly 10 years and doesn't exactly dazzle with skills.
He has tarnished his legacy a lot and will be remembered by me as "that old guy that wouldn't go away" instead of "legend middleweight".
To be honest , I used to think that he shouldn't get any favours because he's old. If he wants to be classed as a World Champion, he should fight the best.
To his credit, he had the balls to do exactly that, taking on Kovalev when People like Stevenson don't really want to. Ok , so he lost, but at least he got in there.
I understand this way of thinking about not liking people if they're not KO merchants, but I don't subscribe to it. However, not respecting their achievements is a completely different thing, and that I don't understand.
the way I see it , is that if he is boring crowds with tactical and dirty wins, it is up to the opponents he faces to stop that happening, like Kovalev did. it's all well and good saying he should entertain, but that's Bollocks really.
What winners do first and foremost is WIN! everything after that is a bonus.
For his last fight, I personally would like to see him fight Froch. I reckon he beats Froch , as he has too much ringcraft, and furthermore I firmly believe Froch at best is a bit worried about that and at worst Knows it!
good speach
thank you. and not wishing to appear pedantic, but I think it's "Speech." ;)
i didnt think it was a good speech
I never said you did,................but you did.:confused: Still , at least you're spelling Speech correctly now. ;D
Don't mention it.
i spelt speach right in the first place
i dont know what
youre on about
Uh, actually it should be "You're". honestly, don't mention it.;D
Re: Who do you want to see Hopkins end his career against?
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IamInuit
He needs to look back at the Kov fight and just announce his retirement.
Word up.
Besides he verbally stated he would never fight Andre ward.
His elite level days....er,uh....decades have ran its course.
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Hopkins v Stevenson or Froch would be good, the only problem is if he wins he will carry on.
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He promised his dying mother he wouldn't fight past 40... he lied to his own mother! That old fool will fight until he's 60.
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Primo Carnera
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Jimanuel Boogustus
Ward/ Stevenson/Brahmer.
I have to say , the last fight in the World I would want to see would be Ward v Hopkins . Both great boxers, but a stylistic nightmare. Spoiling Hugfest .
Ha yeah but that fascinates me. One thing you'll never hear me say is "that fight was boring" honestly it's impossible for me.
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Kovalev was the most comprehensive one sided defeat he has taken and it took 65 fights for it to happen against one of the toughest mo fos in the sport today. Hopkins has zero to prove and like him or not is one of the most evolved and adapted boxers over the years. He squeezed every ounce of ability and skill out of mind and body to repeat success over and over. Hopkins. Legend. Fact!
He can do whatever he wants to do, but as a fan I'd like to see him hang the gloves on the ring post, find a couple of top prospects to sponge his mind and await his trip to Canastota.
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C.J.Rock
Ive been a Hopkins fan all along but especially since I met him & Bouie when I was with Quincy Taylor who was defending his WBC middleweight title against Keith Holmes on a Tyson undercard & got blatantly robbed by Richard Steele. Knowing Quincy was down about being robbed Bernard came to him & said. " Don't let it get to you you & me are the two best MW in the world we need to get it on" I forget who Bernard was fighting but he won easy. Had a long chat with Nard & Bouie both were great guys.
Really I'd like to see Bernard retire now He's got nothing else really to prove to anyone he is a boa fide ATG We'll never see his like again. I know his pride wont want him to go out on the loss to Kovalev bt is pride worth risking his health Bernard is one of the very best
Meh I thought it was a good stoppage against Holmes, and Quincy won the title off a washed up Hawk anyway.
Quincy fought & TKO'd Julian Jackson with a torn ACL. I was there when Jose Suliaman saw Quincy limping around after KO'ing Raphael Williams. Theyd stalled Quincy on a title shot for ages. Suliaman offered him the title shot KNOWING Quincy did not have time for surgeryon the knee. He was hoping Quincy would have to turn it down & as the injury was not boxing related Quincy might not ever get another chance
As for the Holmes fight Quincy had had surgery but his knee was still numb but he never told anyone > Holmes caught him with a shot & his knee let him down. He was up & ok Holmes thinking he'd hurt Quincy attacked .throwing wild shots & Steele stepped in & stopped the fight. Now I sat with Quincy & watched a tape in slow motion & of all the shots Holmes threw only ONE scored hitting Quincy a glancing blow the others were all blocked or missed. Steele was Don King's ref Who managed Holmes? Don King's stepson Carl need I say more. Quincy never got a chance to rematch Was a blatant screw job.
Oh & BTW Bernard Hopkins promised Quincy he'd get Holmes for him He did too didn't he LOL
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A tomato can, he has nothing to prove, he's too old and cant pull the trigger against the youngsters. He really doesn't need to fight anymore, I would like to see him become a trainer though. Give some gatekeeper a payday and ride off into the sunset. This should just be an appreciation fight. Fucking guy is 50...he needs to find some hobbies or something.