Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Northside, If my aunty had bo11ocks she's be my uncle ;D
2 out 3 of your certain predictions have now gone t1ts up, just need Winky to put an end to Jermain "The Hype" Taylor and you can retire ;)
Now that wont happen! Taylor will win, you all will see
yeah just like lacy did...
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Northside, If my aunty had bo11ocks she's be my uncle ;D
2 out 3 of your certain predictions have now gone t1ts up, just need Winky to put an end to Jermain "The Hype" Taylor and you can retire ;)
Now that wont happen! Taylor will win, you all will see
and S peter...
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
But Rachman is a very good heavyweight!!
???
He had just as much of a chance to KO toney that night!
^-^
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
And if Jeff Lacy would have had more time off he would have won :thumb:
Come on. The fact is he didn't come in in shape and I don't think that should be used towards him in a favorable light. I love watching Toney in the ring and I like him out of the ring sometimes, but I'm about out of patience with him.
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
If Toney was in shape he wouldn't be a heavyweight anymore! ;D
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
It was depressing watching the fight. Toney was abviously more talented but wasn't fit enough to work. I was hoping Toney would win before the fight but ended up disappointed that Rahman got shafted.I think he'd hit harder at 215 because his balance looked terrible at 235. I put the tape of the Michael Nunn fight on the other night and the difference in balance was amazing. Against Nunn, he was getting leverage from his good balance. If his technique was as good at 215 at least he might punch his weight. If they care about his legacy, Toney's corner and management should refuse to work with him unless he prepares better
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
If Toney came to a fight in shape he'd be a Cruiserweight and Rahman would have done more damage. The weight was a strategy to make sure Rahman wouldn't wear him down. If TOney came in 190 pounds knowing he'd be hit to the body he would have been hurt more. But I really thought I saw the body shots hurting Toney when Rahman could turn into one.
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Northside, If my aunty had bo11ocks she's be my uncle ;D
2 out 3 of your certain predictions have now gone t1ts up, just need Winky to put an end to Jermain "The Hype" Taylor and you can retire ;)
Now that wont happen! Taylor will win, you all will see
hehehehe ;D ::**
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by MikeTysonKnockOut
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Northside, If my aunty had bo11ocks she's be my uncle ;D
2 out 3 of your certain predictions have now gone t1ts up, just need Winky to put an end to Jermain "The Hype" Taylor and you can retire ;)
Now that wont happen! Taylor will win, you all will see
yeah just like lacy did...
You can't even compare them 2 since they have completely different fighting styles
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
Toney was out of shape & outpointed becuz of his arrogance! Rahman's power didn't hurt Toney so we all can see that he can take a punch, but just becuz Toney can't KO like a heavyweight doesn't mean he can't beat a heavyweight! If he trains right and loses the weight, a second time with Rahman will be an easier fight! Toney still has it if he can lose the weight!
:coolclick: As usual, I agree with you about Toney. Rahman absolutely surprised me that he never wacked Toney really even once although I still picked Toney to win it. Toney could beat him easily provided that he took his shape into better consideration.
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
Toney was out of shape & outpointed becuz of his arrogance! Rahman's power didn't hurt Toney so we all can see that he can take a punch, but just becuz Toney can't KO like a heavyweight doesn't mean he can't beat a heavyweight! If he trains right and loses the weight, a second time with Rahman will be an easier fight! Toney still has it if he can lose the weight!
Here's the thing...I don't like Toney...he's arrogant & I just don't like him...but that's not to say that he can't fight. He's a damned fine boxer...but he IS NOT A HEAVYWEIGHT. I'm sorry...he's not. He weighs 237 lbs...but he's not a heavyweight fighter. He's just fat. If he trains right and loses the weight...good for him...but he needs to move back down. I'd respect his a** a hell of a lot more if he did.
Truthfully...I'd love it if he dropped down to 175...really...he could dominate the division & I'd love to see him tear in to Tarver.
Toney was one of the most talented cruisers & super middles on the planet...why? Because he is just that...an actual cruiser or super middle.
Like many of the greatest fighters were not arrogant? (Ali, Roy Jones Jr., Mike Tyson, etc.) ???
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4
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Originally Posted by BIG H
Northside, If my aunty had bo11ocks she's be my uncle ;D
2 out 3 of your certain predictions have now gone t1ts up, just need Winky to put an end to Jermain "The Hype" Taylor and you can retire ;)
Now that wont happen! Taylor will win, you all will see
I disagree with you here. Winky will show Taylor who's the better.
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
If Toney was in shape he wouldn't be a heavyweight anymore! ;D
:coolclick: Now, that's funny, KlitsFan.
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
He was in shape, he is round...like circles ;D
You asked quite a bit of him, he never comes in at a good weight plus isnt hindsight great.
Re: James Toney should of came in shape, then he would o won!
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
If Toney came to a fight in shape he'd be a Cruiserweight and Rahman would have done more damage. The weight was a strategy to make sure Rahman wouldn't wear him down. If TOney came in 190 pounds knowing he'd be hit to the body he would have been hurt more. But I really thought I saw the body shots hurting Toney when Rahman could turn into one.
Yeah, but there is no way that Toney should have been that fat! A smaller J.T. is going to be too quick and too skilled for Rahman.
