America you seriously need to sort out your gun laws - Reporter shot dead on live TV

Defend your self against what Lyle?
Another guy with a gun right ;)

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Originally Posted by smashup

Defend your self against what Lyle?
Another guy with a gun right ;)

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Your point being? If the other guy has a gun does my NOT having a gun help me at all? It'll certainly help the other guy.

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by smashup

Defend your self against what Lyle?
Another guy with a gun right ;)

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Your point being? If the other guy has a gun does my NOT having a gun help me at all? It'll certainly help the other guy.

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I don't expect you to get my point
That is my point ;)
You'll figure it out sooner or later

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by smashup

Defend your self against what Lyle?
Another guy with a gun right ;)

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Your point being? If the other guy has a gun does my NOT having a gun help me at all? It'll certainly help the other guy.

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I don't expect you to get my point
That is my point ;)
You'll figure it out sooner or later

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Originally Posted by smashup

I don't expect you to get my point
That is my point ;)
You'll figure it out sooner or later

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Because you didn't have one......UNLESS you believe that banning guns will not only remove any and all firearms but also make people nicer and friendlier and less likely to oooooh I don't know attack another person who may not have the physical strength or ability to defend themselves. Or you believe the government via the police will "protect" citizens....well I can inform you that a large portion of people don't buy that shit for 1 single second!


Maybe you'll figure out sooner or later that there are guns, there will be guns, and there's no getting rid of them. I mean....you can certainly try but even in England there's still shootings, even in France there's still shootings and the best part is....you're sitting ducks!

The Police, the very people sworn to protect the citizens ran away from the Charlie Hebdo shooters!!!!

You want ME to put my faith in THOSE bastards???? No thanks

I just don't see the legality being the issue, this is such a tired argument on here lol. Many of the worst areas/cities in America for gun violence have some of the most stringent laws, in places like New York, Detroit, Chicago, the process of getting a legal firearm is probably not unlike it is in the UK, here in Canada, or most anywhere else. If you want to suggest measures to stop the millions of illegal weapons being smuggled in and trafficked in the US then by all means, but at least acknowledge that's the bigger problem.

Apparently the shooter was also gay and was I guess upset at perceived slights due to that as well.

AND this shooting (so he said in his "manifesto") was not just revenge for slights against him but a retaliation for what that jackass did in South Carolina.


....guess we'll have to ban the #blacklivesmatter movement now what with this tragedy and all

Bit harsh to call the Charlie Hebdo coppers cowards. Whether or not they were armed it wouldn't have prevented the attack. Which is proven by the USA.

On average 300 people every day are shot in the States. The fact your coppers have guns is not a deterrent.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Bit harsh to call the Charlie Hebdo coppers cowards. Whether or not they were armed it wouldn't have prevented the attack. Which is proven by the USA.

On average 300 people every day are shot in the States. The fact your coppers have guns is not a deterrent.

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1. Didn't call them cowards, they didn't have guns!

2. Where are they shot? Are they shot in places where people own more legal guns or are these shootings happening in Chicago, Detroit, New York, where the gun laws are very strict?

If those "bastards that ran away" had guns would it have prevented a terrorist attack?

No, but if the cartoonists did it might not have been quite as bad. Fact! :p

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Originally Posted by Fenster

If those "bastards that ran away" had guns would it have prevented a terrorist attack?

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Depends on how close they were to the scene. Could have saved 1 cop's life though. He was unarmed and executed in the street

Statistically, you are much less likely to die of terrorism if you have a big gun collection and never leave your house.

Certain states in America having strict gun laws means fuck all when other states have very relaxed gun laws, they are all over your country and are easily moved around and have been for years so the having strict laws is a joke, the damage/problem is already cemented into your culture.
Nowhere in the UK is it ok to have a firearm like it is in some US states.
If say Scotland had similar relaxed gun laws like some of your states then we would have a massive problem like you have but they aren't and we don't.
Its gotta be an all out ban across the entire country to even begin to tackle the problem, that is the USA problem.
A 10 year old could suss that out to be honest :)

What a fickle world American small time TV news is.

One minute you're doing the early morning slot, the next you're on the graveyard shift.