Does anyone blame RJJ for not travelling after this joke!!

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

well this was the legitimate reason why he didn't go back overseas....unlike calzaghge & darius...

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Why do you have to bring Calzaghe into it??

Why did Toney not travel?? You got an excuse for him??

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

well this was the legitimate reason why he didn't go back overseas....unlike calzaghge & darius...

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Calzaghe has defended his title twice in Europe

that vid made me sad :'( , it further shows how easily Jones could have beaten Tarver and Johnson

who cares....that loss made him more popular than he would of been had he won the gold.
Abit like when Lewis and Evander fought the first time to a draw, so much fuss was made out of it....
People gave their sympathy's and apologies to Lewis making him that much bigger to the public ;D
Ever wonder why he was in the Leno show 8)

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Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

well this was the legitimate reason why he didn't go back overseas....unlike calzaghge & darius...

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whats PBF excuse then?
Calzaghe fought in Germany, where alot of dodgy decisions have been given, look at Sven Ottke - Robin Reid, after that i thought Calzaghe was mad going there!

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Originally Posted by The_One77

who cares....that loss made him more popular than he would of been had he won the gold.
Abit like when Lewis and Evander fought the first time to a draw, so much fuss was made out of it....
People gave their sympathy's and apologies to Lewis making him that much bigger to the public ;D
Ever wonder why he was is the Leno show 8)

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So what? It would still make you not want to fight outside of the states regardless of popularity.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by The_One77

who cares....that loss made him more popular than he would of been had he won the gold.
Abit like when Lewis and Evander fought the first time to a draw, so much fuss was made out of it....
People gave their sympathy's and apologies to Lewis making him that much bigger to the public ;D
Ever wonder why he was is the Leno show 8)

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So what? It would still make you not want to fight outside of the states regardless of popularity.

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I know that's a fair reason why Roy Jones never fought outside the states.....
My post was simply saying what actually happened and the benefits it had concerning Roy Jones.

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It's pointless...the biggest stage for any amateur boxer is the olympics...period...IF CALZAGHE DIDN"T GET ROBBED DURING AN OLYMPIC FIGHT IT CAN't BE WORSE THAN WHAT HAPPEN TO RJJ!!!! there's no other venue that you can name that will top that.....and it was for the gold medal!!!!

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Chill out, and losing is losing IMO. Sure the Olympics is bad, but Calzaghe got very bad decisions against him which would make him less likely to want to fight over seas or even outside the UK, and also Calzaghe was robbed of going to the Olympics.

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well this was the legitimate reason why he didn't go back overseas....unlike calzaghge & darius...

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whats PBF excuse then?
Calzaghe fought in Germany, where alot of dodgy decisions have been given, look at Sven Ottke - Robin Reid, after that i thought Calzaghe was mad going there!

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When did PBF say he wouldn't fight overseas? ANd since he just moved up to SL & WW there has been anybody worth going overseas for,,,now that hatton is around maybe he'll go over there, if not then hatton can come to the states....besides i've never seen a more biased ref than DAVE PARRIS...so it probably wouldn't be good to fight hatton overseas....

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well this was the legitimate reason why he didn't go back overseas....unlike calzaghge & darius...

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whats PBF excuse then?
Calzaghe fought in Germany, where alot of dodgy decisions have been given, look at Sven Ottke - Robin Reid, after that i thought Calzaghe was mad going there!

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When did PBF say he wouldn't fight overseas? ANd since he just moved up to SL & WW there has been anybody worth going overseas for,,,now that hatton is around maybe he'll go over there, if not then hatton can come to the states....besides i've never seen a more biased ref than DAVE PARRIS...so it probably wouldn't be good to fight hatton overseas....

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Were you not watching when Jeff Lacy fought robin reid??? He made Dave Paris look like Joe Cortez.

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well this was the legitimate reason why he didn't go back overseas....unlike calzaghge & darius...

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Actually something similar happened to Joe Calzaghe... some say it was even worse during his amateur career.

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calzaghe was fighting for the gold during the olympics and beating the shat out of the guy and had it go to the other fighter? If not...I don't think there's anything worse than that as far as amateur boxing goes....or did you just make that up?

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No Calzaghe lost a fight to a guy who's dad was either a judge or the ref....cart remember which.

this is really hard to accept.

being a sportsman, a Olympic gold medal is something that you will be proud of forever, and you could probably die the next day with little regrets.

being robbed of such an honour must of been terribly hard to take. even though the people know he won, he still got a silver medal.

This is an old old topic but i just wanted to tell everyone the person Calzaghe lost to was Mike Smive "The Barry Bomber" from my home town Barry....Mike's dad apprently was the ref but Joe admits Mike was just alot stronger than him because he hadnt developed properly yet and he lost the first 2 rounds...it's in Joes book aswell.

Smive still runs around bragging about how he battered Joe :D

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128 wins, 2 losses

He was screwed out of the Barcelona Olympics due to politics, the Welsh ABA refused to nominate him because they felt he was disrespectful to opponents the way he would drop his gloves and tap them on the head, and Ali shuffles etc.


1985-88 British Schoolboy Lightweight (132lbs) Champion

1989 Junior Multi Nations Welterweight (147lbs) in Denmark (represented Britain against Sweden, Norway and Denmark, beat Armand Krajnc and Ole Klemetson)

1989 Junior Multi Nations Welterweight (147lbs) in Italy (represented Italy against Germany, Ireland and Romania, beat Adrian Preda)

1990 Senior Welsh ABA Junior-Welterweight (139lbs) Finalist (robbed against Michael Smyth)

1990 Junior European Junior-Welterweight (139lbs) Championships in Czech Republic (robbed against Romanian Adrian Preda)

1991 Senior British ABA Welterweight (147lbs) Champion

1991 Italy vs USA Junior-Middleweight (156lbs) dual meet in Italy (beat Raul Marquez)

1992 Senior British ABA Junior-Middleweight (156lbs) Champion (beat Chris Sanigar's Bristol boys Dean Francis and Glenn Catley, stopped Francis in semi-final and stopped Catley in final)

1992 Italy vs USA Middleweight (165lbs) dual meet in Italy (beat Chris Byrd)

1993 Senior British ABA Middleweight (165lbs) Champion (beat Jason Matthews)

It was his loss in Eastern Europe apparently that was worse or as bad as Roy Jones Jr.'s decision granted this was written by Watt, but I think it was a similar fight personally.

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He had 9 losses. And he was set to go as a welter weight. but as the time came closer he was no longer able to make it, but the ABA would only alow him to go as a welter. His dad tried and tried to get him in at a higher weight, even willing for joe to fight anyone in an elimination but they would not alow it. The claim was because he had to pull out of numerous bouts aboard and at home due to hand injuries they believed that he only fought when he wanted to, and not for his country. The gerneral feeling at the time was that it was bullshit and a joke not ot let him go.

I saw that live, I was pissed off as a kid. I thought what a fucking cheating piece of shit the Korean judge was, and how in the hell does he make it into the Olympics to judge. It was even obvious to me as a child who won that fight. Did they ever give Roy hi medal he should have won? Ridiculous!