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Frazier had 9 successful defencesQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
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Originally Posted by MasterFrazier had more title defences against better fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustHey, W.W.O., ....... Frazier and NOT Marciano? Rocky held the title from 1952 to 1956 and defended it 6 times (5 KOs, 1 decision). Frazier held it less time and defended it less times as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
WWO= Wolverhamptom Wild One ;)
Prove it
NonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrazier had 9 successful defencesQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrazier had more title defences against better fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustHey, W.W.O., ....... Frazier and NOT Marciano? Rocky held the title from 1952 to 1956 and defended it 6 times (5 KOs, 1 decision). Frazier held it less time and defended it less times as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
WWO= Wolverhamptom Wild One ;)
Prove it
It is true, look it up on boxing rec. He won the title, defended it 9 times before losing it to George Foreman which makes Joe better champion than Rocky. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustNonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrazier had 9 successful defencesQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterFrazier had more title defences against better fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustHey, W.W.O., ....... Frazier and NOT Marciano? Rocky held the title from 1952 to 1956 and defended it 6 times (5 KOs, 1 decision). Frazier held it less time and defended it less times as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
WWO= Wolverhamptom Wild One ;)
Prove it
WBA and WBC title he won in 1970 from Jimmy ellis--- he lost those titles on his 5th title defense in Kingston Jamaica.
You are mistakenly thinking the New York State Athletic Commission title is the Heavyweight Champion of the World. Those fights were not HW Champ of the World, those are STATE TITLES, SUCH AS CHAMP OF WESSEX, CHAMP OF ESSEX, CHAMP OF DUNDEE, CHAMP OF DUNGHOLAIRE, CHAMP OF NORTHUMBRIA, ETC.....
NICE TRY THOUGH.
Did he?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMcneely beat TysonQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Spinks beat Holmes
Morrison beat Foreman
Rocky beat Louis......it happens to old fighters.
;D
yeah, McNeely/McBride--it's all the same for an Amritsari, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDid he?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterMcneely beat TysonQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Spinks beat Holmes
Morrison beat Foreman
Rocky beat Louis......it happens to old fighters.
;D
You know I don't see Sonny Liston on the list. Only Ali beat him. Wins over big cat Williams Henry Clark and Floyd Patterson twice. I think he could beat most on this list.
NYSAC World Heavyweight Title. There was no other better heavyweight champion at the time as Ali was exiled.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Which further supports the case that Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight champion beating 3 greats in his era. No one compares with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Face facts no one has a better record.
Who would come out on top with the most wins if they all fought each other?
Now that is a different question altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Well said sir. In any division a great champion must have 3 things Chin heart and stamina. If Marciano lacked any one of these 3 there is no way he becomes champ. Ali also had all 3 plus ring smarts and speed. Foreman was unbeatable, Ali knocked him out. Liston was unbeatable, Liston was unable to answer the bell for round 7. Ali fought all over the world taking on all comers. Now brothers and Sisters that's great.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhich further supports the case that Ali was the greatest ever heavyweight champion beating 3 greats in his era. No one compares with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
Face facts no one has a better record.
It is but people can get confused over what greatest means. Sime fighters have great careers and achievements but others would beat that same fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNow that is a different question altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Foreman had a great career in the end but most on that list would beat him I think.
Klitschko would also probably be higher as would Lewis and Tyson.
That list would be a bit warped as I could see it beingQuote:
Originally Posted by rossIt is but people can get confused over what greatest means. Sime fighters have great careers and achievements but others would beat that same fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNow that is a different question altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Foreman had a great career in the end but most on that list would beat him I think.
Klitschko would also probably be higher as would Lewis and Tyson.
Lennox
Evander
Tyson
Vitali
Bowe
Holmes
Wlad
Foreman
Liston
Frazier
B*******. Rocky Marciano had just beaten Muhammad Ali and 13 round knockout you and I and the computer all know itQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterNYSAC World Heavyweight Title. There was no other better heavyweight champion at the time as Ali was exiled.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust