Just watcehd Valuev vs. Etienne

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Originally Posted by atomic bull

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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking

I feel sorry for Clifford Etienne with the robbery and everything. He's not a very good boxer and tries to make a living, then he gives up and does something foolish sometimes.

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YOU FEEL SORRY FOR HIM!!!!!!! F*** HIM!!!!! Instead of sticking a gun in somebodys belly and demanding money, maybe he should get a job like the rest of law bidding people!!

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or at least build a meth lab

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

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Originally Posted by atomic bull

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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking

I feel sorry for Clifford Etienne with the robbery and everything. He's not a very good boxer and tries to make a living, then he gives up and does something foolish sometimes.

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YOU FEEL SORRY FOR HIM!!!!!!! F*** HIM!!!!! Instead of sticking a gun in somebodys belly and demanding money, maybe he should get a job like the rest of law bidding people!!

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or at least build a meth lab

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That's some good advice Butcher. Maybe you should give it to Zab Judah after he loses on April 8th.

Valuev is a freak, and will not ever be legitimate champ.

As for Etienne=could have, would have, should have, obeyed the law.

I think it's safe to say by the time ettienne fought valuev he didn't want to box anymore.

It would be interesting to see how good his chin really is... If its good enough he MIGHT, and I mean MIGHT as in very little chance land that perfect blow on Wladimir because he has alot of power and knock the Klit out.

I was impressed with his jab. With big guys like him it always seems to me that they dont punch full force. Maybe I am just expecting earth shattering power from a guy that size, but it does not seem that he has the power you would expect from a guy his size. I thought that he worked his left hand good good but seemed kind of awkward with his right hand.

I saw portions of his fights with Ruiz and Larry Donald and he's certainly a clean fighter if not a skilled one. He can't fight worth a darn on the inside, but I suppose I will excuse him that limitation since he's a full head taller than his typical opponent, who lunges in and lands 1 or 2 shots and then puts his head on Valuev's chest. He also doesn't get any leverage on his shots, but he doesn't need much. His biggest weakness seems to be that except for an occasional jab that lands, he tends to be strictly a counterpuncher and his opponents often get off 1st. Certainly that was the case with Ruiz and Donald. I guess that's the trouble with being so big. The nerve impulses from the brain to the arms and hands take a little longer to get there! ;D

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

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Originally Posted by atomic bull

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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking

I feel sorry for Clifford Etienne with the robbery and everything. He's not a very good boxer and tries to make a living, then he gives up and does something foolish sometimes.

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YOU FEEL SORRY FOR HIM!!!!!!! F*** HIM!!!!! Instead of sticking a gun in somebodys belly and demanding money, maybe he should get a job like the rest of law bidding people!!

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or at least build a meth lab

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That's some good advice Butcher. Maybe you should give it to Zab Judah after he loses on April 8th.

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>:mad
judah is definitley going to be ready, and mayweather will pay

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Originally Posted by TyBuff

I was impressed with his jab. With big guys like him it always seems to me that they dont punch full force. Maybe I am just expecting earth shattering power from a guy that size, but it does not seem that he has the power you would expect from a guy his size. I thought that he worked his left hand good good but seemed kind of awkward with his right hand.

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I have seen him fight more than 10 times and it seems he holds back on throwing power shots, and that makes sense because that is how a lot of Russian fighters are trained.He has broken a guys ribs in a fight so he can throw big shots.I think his mentality has a lot to due with it as well.If he had the mentality of Tyson, coming out like a bull and atacking relentlessly I am sure he would finish opponents off much quicker and gain a lot more respect.

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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan

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Originally Posted by TyBuff

I was impressed with his jab. With big guys like him it always seems to me that they dont punch full force. Maybe I am just expecting earth shattering power from a guy that size, but it does not seem that he has the power you would expect from a guy his size. I thought that he worked his left hand good good but seemed kind of awkward with his right hand.

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I have seen him fight more than 10 times and it seems he holds back on throwing power shots, and that makes sense because that is how a lot of Russian fighters are trained.He has broken a guys ribs in a fight so he can throw big shots.I think his mentality has a lot to due with it as well.If he had the mentality of Tyson, coming out like a bull and atacking relentlessly I am sure he would finish opponents off much quicker and gain a lot more respect.

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:coolclick: That is a good point, I would like to see him be a little more aggresive on occasion. You know really take that shot to knock some guys head off. I dont think he would have to do it to much, just enough so that the other person knows that he has the power to do it. I think he would earn a little bit more respect that way.

Alot of heavyweights could beat Valuev and Knock Him out. Wlad, Byrd, and alot of better heavyweights could beat him. He is big don't get me wrong but he doesn't use his height for the better of him. Ruiz the Loser pretty much beat him what does that tell you. Cliff is an awful fighter and he is probably one of the worst fighters ever. P.S. Vitali Just lost his mayorship so he is coming back

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Originally Posted by Taeth

I didn't have a problem with alot of his stuff... people said he was a bubbling oaf, and maybe he was against Ruiz, but for the most part he did pretty good against Etienne though he did catch a few overhand rights... they seemed like a little fly hitting him, and his jab seemed to hurt Etienne more... Its funny because at one point Etienne runs around him and they get tied up and Valuev knocks him hard to the ground.

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if u wanna see numerous low quality valuev fight videos go to boxen.com

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Originally Posted by Klitschkofn4lfe

Alot of heavyweights could beat Valuev and Knock Him out. Wlad, Byrd, and alot of better heavyweights could beat him. He is big don't get me wrong but he doesn't use his height for the better of him. Ruiz the Loser pretty much beat him what does that tell you. Cliff is an awful fighter and he is probably one of the worst fighters ever. P.S. Vitali Just lost his mayorship so he is coming back

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Vitlai isn't going to return to boxing, he doesn't need boxing like some other fighters to make a living.He will still be involved in politics one way or the other or at least manage his company K2 promotions.To many years of kickboxing took it's toll on his body and I am sure he isn't going to risk it just for a payday.

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

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Originally Posted by atomic bull

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Originally Posted by drgoodlooking

I feel sorry for Clifford Etienne with the robbery and everything. He's not a very good boxer and tries to make a living, then he gives up and does something foolish sometimes.

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YOU FEEL SORRY FOR HIM!!!!!!! F*** HIM!!!!! Instead of sticking a gun in somebodys belly and demanding money, maybe he should get a job like the rest of law bidding people!!

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or at least build a meth lab

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That's some good advice Butcher. Maybe you should give it to Zab Judah after he loses on April 8th.

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>:mad
judah is definitley going to be ready, and mayweather will pay

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Oh, really? :)

;)