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Have a hard time categorizing guys as bummy unless its one who blows weight, self sabotages and phones it in when the chips are down. A bullshit artist. Say Gamboa and Guzman fit the bill. Guys like Skipper Kelp just ran there course and hit the ceiling as far as talent. Tough level b battler throughout. I thought Al Kotey was on his way. I'd actually call the conduct of Broner bummy. Literally. He is a con job. Angel Vazquez and Eddie Cook should have gone much further on natural talent.
Another vote for David Price, looked like he could have gone all the way and he hit like a truck.
I suppose that you could argue that his losses don't really count because they were against people who failed drug tests but the flaws were there regardless and you can't imagine that people like Fury, Klit or Wilder would have struggled against them on peds or not.
Junior Jones?
Pat Barrett.
I think Berto and Ortiz are huge let downs i think there bummy compared to what they could of done. Also not a Bum but JML i think kinda underachieved people were calling him next Gomez and he gets destroyed by a guy i would not guess ever in Saldio and thats it.
Bowe was another guy that was not a bum but man he sure fucked up his career. It was not drugs but food that did him in and the wars he had but i think the food pretty much fucked him. I mean the weight he would have to lose for fights is just plain body destroying.
His eye would have kept him from greatness also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleepwalker
Jorge Luis Gonzales and Audley Harrison come to mind.
David Price is the guy who NEVER got chin checked in the gym, got chin checked in a real fight, and never recovered. Plus, in hindsight, losing to Thompson twice didn't help him a great deal either. Thompson being the gate-keeper in many respects. Price is done. Sad, but some times it goes like that.
David Reid on the other hand was just rushed too early. Never should have had that Trinidad fight at that time. They rushed him and ended his career prematurely. He could have done it, but had it not been for the eye, well....
Jorge Luis Gonzalez gave us the TEMPLATE on what to expect from Cuban fighters that turned pro in America- watch their weight, habits, people they hang with and their partying, then you have a winner like Rigondeaux and an apparent winner like Ortiz. But, if you don't watch all of that, you have Odlanier Solis, Gamboa and Gonzalez.
Andrew Maynard was propped up for greatness as well.