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Yeah hes struggling and getting hurt with everyone now. Stiverne is only rated off his wins over Arreola and got dropped himself recently, hes been stopped before also. They do have name value and will make any contender look good. They wont really be threat though.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
arreola or stiveren would be a good defence for AJ, nothing wrong with that
and scott may well be every bit as good s those two but his fights against chiz and wilder make it a less credible defence
least the other two would take a bit of batter before falling over
The amount of money the IBF will make from his fights theyd let him fight me if Hearn wantsQuote:
Originally Posted by rossScott would still need to be in the IBFs rankings to be a voluntary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
These 2 are complete puddings now. Seriously lads get a grip. Chisora would be a tougher test than these guys now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkAgree completely with those two fighters as choices to help him grow and gain credibility as THE champion eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Scott is an ok, passable choice for a voluntary defense. Once.
bit of a stretch , but I take your point. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeThese 2 are complete puddings now. Seriously lads get a grip. Chisora would be a tougher test than these guys now.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkAgree completely with those two fighters as choices to help him grow and gain credibility as THE champion eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Scott is an ok, passable choice for a voluntary defense. Once.
Stiverne and Arreleo would be better than Chisora who looks like a pudding.
id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
I think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes he did look shot that dayQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Chisora may have been carrying an injury that day but his recent outings have not shown me can achieve the heights of his fight with Helenius which was years ago. In fact he has lived far too long from that fight as well as the one with Vitali.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44yes he did look shot that dayQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Think youll find anyone is going to look awful against a 6,9" skilled fighter;)
Chisora depending on how he does against Pulev is at least on equal terms with Arreola and Stverne currently who have both looked worse than Chisroa has recently.
We shall see what Chisora has left. If he beat Pulev then fair enough he is not as shot as I think he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Id imagine Master that living in England youve seen more of Chisoras recent fights then Stiverne and Arreola.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterChisora may have been carrying an injury that day but his recent outings have not shown me can achieve the heights of his fight with Helenius which was years ago. In fact he has lived far too long from that fight as well as the one with Vitali.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44yes he did look shot that dayQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think Chisora has nothing left to offer and is not even a gate keeper after his performance against Fury. It was awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44id like to see chiz in with any of them two, would be an interesting fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Arreolas last 3 fights have been against Kauffman, Kassi and Harper and has looked muck in all 3. He also failed a drug test after his latest. I dont believe a drug cheat should be rewarded with a career high pay day against Joshua in a fight he would last 2 or 3 rounds in.
Stiverne, possibly not as bad as Arreola, went 10 with Derric Rossy and looked absolutely useless getting dropped in Round 1. This is a chap Audley stopped in prizefighter.
I honestly believe there is a massive gulf in class between US and European heavies at the moment. Apart from Wilder (who I think will be found out against Povetkin) the rest would all struggle at British level against guys like Chisora, Whyte and Price let alone AJ, Haye or Fury. I dont even know who the US heavy hopes are? Your man Breazeale looks pretty average too (think people were saying him and Martin was a 50/50 before that got cancelled). Washington and Ruiz Jr are other unbeaten US fighters who never look world beaters when they fight.
But Pulev isnt shit so a good performance losing to him is nothing to be ashamed about.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWe shall see what Chisora has left. If he beat Pulev then fair enough he is not as shot as I think he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Yeah, he could put that on his ever growing list of "not shit" HW's that he's lost to.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeBut Pulev isnt shit so a good performance losing to him is nothing to be ashamed about.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWe shall see what Chisora has left. If he beat Pulev then fair enough he is not as shot as I think he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Of course , the list of not shit HW's that he has beat is not quite so long.
And anyway, if Pulev did beat Chisora , wouldn't Pulev be ahead of Chisora in the reckoning for Fighting AJ? or doesn't it work like that, perhaps he's not British enough.