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Agree close and Moorer power on display. He takes guff because of chin but Moorer evolved his style. Temperament and sound solid boxer at core under flat feet and power game. Not sure of post Shultz but he did complained about jaw and possible break after Botha fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Tossing in Marcos Villasana who got it done on the 5th shot. Hoko had his eyes slammed shut and hit low but would take the rematch.
Villasana v Hodgkinson was an excellent fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliAgree close and Moorer power on display. He takes guff because of chin but Moorer evolved his style. Temperament and sound solid boxer at core under flat feet and power game. Not sure of post Shultz but he did complained about jaw and possible break after Botha fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimTrae
Tossing in Marcos Villasana who got it done on the 5th shot. Hoko had his eyes slammed shut and hit low but would take the rematch.
What about Jorge Vaca or Jorge Castro and Roberto Duran.
Bruno was a good call he was good boxer with a lot of power but his ring iq was just bad. Not to mention he had no idea what to do when he was hurt if he knew how to stall just some he might of been champ more but he most likely get curb stomped by Tyson and Lewis different level.
Terry Marsh had a good shot at Frank Warren!
bad ring iq? he out boxed lewis for 6 rounds, and witherspoon and was winning by miles against bonecrusher before he lostQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
his ring iq was very good, if fights were 6 rounds he'd have been an unbeatable champion
Vincenzo Nardiello
Got chinned about 18 times trying to win the WBC Super Middleweight title. Through the 90's it felt like he was on ITV every weekend getting beat up by some Brit Super Middle champ.
ha, youre right, he fount them all
the whos who of british super middleweights in the 90s
hes like the rebrasse of today
No he didn't, that was the problem!Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcom
Think I sat through only one of those and it was when he fookin kissed or tried to kiss? Benn ;D who promptly removed him from his senses!Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Manuel 'Mantecas' Medina with 11 major world title shots, won five..or six if you include being robbed vs Johnny Tapia :-X. Love ya Johnny..but you lost that fight.
It was bad against Tyson, but fear can do strange things to a person. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44bad ring iq? he out boxed lewis for 6 rounds, and witherspoon and was winning by miles against bonecrusher before he lostQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
his ring iq was very good, if fights were 6 rounds he'd have been an unbeatable champion
Sort of related but for some reason I just thought of Jimmy Young and the fact that he only got one shot. It almost seems criminal. He draws with Shavers, gives Lyle a clinic, loses a very debateable against Ali for his title shot, puts on another clinic against Lyle, sends Big George off to find his maker and then loses a close one to Norton. In between those fights he also beat 6 others. It took but 3 years. Today it would have taken 7 years and he would have gotten 4 title shots. His drop was like an anvil after Norton.
I thought of Moore also. 160 fights to get his first shot.
Um title fights are 12 rounds or 15 so that shit you just said is pretty dumb i am sorry. When you have no idea what to do when you are hurt and can not stall your ring iq is lacking. His chin was not the greatest should got his defense up and learned how to buy time while stunned.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44bad ring iq? he out boxed lewis for 6 rounds, and witherspoon and was winning by miles against bonecrusher before he lostQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
his ring iq was very good, if fights were 6 rounds he'd have been an unbeatable champion
Could be all of the above for why the title eluded him after.. being that awkward good but the Norton fight was an eliminator? Then the wbc gets strip happy and Young may have slept on a poor mans version of himself losing twice to Ocasio but I've never seen those. He upset a lot of pre planning by knocking George around, cruel in that after Norton he watched them near the end and calling it a day while he went on to fall into stepping stone role vs a handful of the young mishmash of 80's wannabes.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit