Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
I think Tyson Fury is all wrong for Klitschko. Klitschko needs a fighter who is going to back up and cower/ smaller than him.
If you listen to Roy Jones doing the fight he was hitting the nail on the head all night long about Klitschko
wlad just needs to down a 6 pack of pabst before the ring walk and go on a sugary beer fueled rampage... he needs a new nutritionist
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
I think Tyson Fury is all wrong for Klitschko. Klitschko needs a fighter who is going to back up and cower/ smaller than him.
If you listen to Roy Jones doing the fight he was hitting the nail on the head all night long about Klitschko
He's a smart fighter.but that doesn't negate a single thing you've pointed out.
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
In terms of numbers yes it's piss poor, but numbers dont tell the whole story.
Wlad is a great 'up' fighter, he's been the Don for years and had everything on his terms. He's been great at beating up smaller guys that can fight, or big lumps that cant fight a lick. In Fury he had a big lump who can move and fight, and who totally psyched him out pre fight.
What Wlad does in the rematch is intriguing. Self preservation/intelligence has repeatedly seen him ignore pleas to up the pace in fights, even when Manny was alive. Wlad is smart, no doubting that but I dont think he's that tough. It's been a running joke through his career that he gets Big Bro to finish the rows he starts but cant finish himself. If he tries to box with Fury he'll be back in his shell in no time, terrified of letting the leather fly. If he ignores every impulse in himself and comes out fighting he may win his titles back, he may get chinned. How he approaches this has got me hooked.
While there's no doubting Wlad's intelligence, I'd say it's 99.9% self preservation and 0.1% intelligence in the ring. Also, while you're right in that numbers don't tell the whole story... there's also this to consider. Ponder a minute on 19 punches per round.
Wlad threw an average of one punch every 10 seconds. TEN SECONDS!!! Let's just say he threw a few rare 2-punch combinations. That means somewhere along the line Wlad was a full 20-30 seconds without throwing a single punch. Not to mention the fact that of those 19, probably 18 of them were meekly thrown, more like "get off of me" punches than punches meant to do actual damage.
No... it just gets worse the more you think about it.
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
I say he is intelligent......based on the end result. Horrible numbers for the duration of his fights for sure, but the results?:-\
53 KO/TKOs out of 64 wins. 78% ratio over a 19 year span. That is hard to do.
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
the main difference between 2 awful fights - Tyson v Bonecrusher / Wlad v Fury is pretty simple , Smith landed 4 per round with a rampaging slugger coming at him , Wlad landed the same with a guy landing 7 punches per round on him.
So it shows the fact it went 12 rounds that Wlad is shot and has no punch output.
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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Freedom
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erics44
evidence?
Klitschko-Jennings punch stats
Klitschko-Wach 693 punches
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and like I say tho, in terms of results he is at his peak, Jennings and pulev were 2 of his best wins and best performances
No, he's looked old in those fights.
Prime Wlad was faster and would have KOed Jennings.
Wlad didn't KO Jennings because he was stopped from holding
if the fight was in Germany he would have been allowed to hold and would have KOed Jennings
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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brocktonblockbust
Rocky Marciano threw 75 punches a round, sometimes 110 (122 in several rounds against Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore!!!!,)
122.
Case closed.
The gavel has been banged.
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
"He is shot"
This is a shock to see from everyone who like me thought he'd destroy Fury.
All the Fury fight proved is that he couldn't figure someone out, and that was about time.
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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Vendettos
"He is shot"
This is a shock to see from everyone who like me thought he'd destroy Fury.
All the Fury fight proved is that he couldn't figure someone out, and that was about time.
eggs fucking zactly
before the fury fight what were the signs of him being shot?
he'd just had 2 of his best results
he lost to fury because fury is half decent and too big for him to hold
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
"He is shot"
This is a shock to see from everyone who like me thought he'd destroy Fury.
All the Fury fight proved is that he couldn't figure someone out, and that was about time.
eggs fucking zactly
before the fury fight what were the signs of him being shot?
he'd just had 2 of his best results
he lost to fury because fury is half decent and too big for him to hold
I almost liked that until you had to reduce Fury to being half decent. Hes clearly better than half decent when he can do what no one else could and that includes half decent fighters like Haye and Povetkin.
Re: Klitscko's 4-connected-punches/rd.--worst in history?
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ross
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
Vendettos
"He is shot"
This is a shock to see from everyone who like me thought he'd destroy Fury.
All the Fury fight proved is that he couldn't figure someone out, and that was about time.
eggs fucking zactly
before the fury fight what were the signs of him being shot?
he'd just had 2 of his best results
he lost to fury because fury is half decent and too big for him to hold
I almost liked that until you had to reduce Fury to being half decent. Hes clearly better than half decent when he can do what no one else could and that includes half decent fighters like Haye and Povetkin.
I never said he was just half decent
I said he was half decent and too big for wlad to hold :)