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Although that ignores that on fight night Hatton was cut to the bone and Fury is fat even at his most 'ripped'... So they aren't starting from the same place even relatively speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Not that I think it matters to Fury. He'll be in the same shape he normally is. Which is fine for him. But the comparison you made is a bit wonky ;)
Even if Tyson took another stone off to get ripped to the bone hes still only lost 4 stone to Hattons 5!!!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanAlthough that ignores that on fight night Hatton was cut to the bone and Fury is fat even at his most 'ripped'... So they aren't starting from the same place even relatively speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Not that I think it matters to Fury. He'll be in the same shape he normally is. Which is fine for him. But the comparison you made is a bit wonky ;)
Hattons 5,7" Furys 6,9" clearly you can see Hatton was massively overweight compared to Fury?
Hatton ballooned up to add 50% of his fighting weight on.
I thought Fury was being smart by showing Wlad his belly. He was about to go into training camp, which he said he can't stand because of the sacrifices, and will obviously have shed the timber by time of the fight.
He's a big ignorant thicko but he's "streetwise" sharp.
If you ask Ricky Hatton his one regret in boxing, it would be him ballooning his weight way too high. It shortened his career significantly.
Yeah Hatton got much bigger as a weight percentage of course, but how 'overweight' they get obviously depends on whether their starting point was already overweight. Ie 4 stone on a ripped physique is not 4 stone 'overweight', and 4 stone more weight on someone already 2 stone overweight makes them 6 stone overweight. So your logic is a bit faulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossEven if Tyson took another stone off to get ripped to the bone hes still only lost 4 stone to Hattons 5!!!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanAlthough that ignores that on fight night Hatton was cut to the bone and Fury is fat even at his most 'ripped'... So they aren't starting from the same place even relatively speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Not that I think it matters to Fury. He'll be in the same shape he normally is. Which is fine for him. But the comparison you made is a bit wonky ;)
Hattons 5,7" Furys 6,9" clearly you can see Hatton was massively overweight compared to Fury?
Hatton ballooned up to add 50% of his fighting weight on.
Hatton probably got so fat that he got to about the same bf% as Tyson is now. So they're probably fairly even in terms of how out of shape they get. Both are fatties when they let themselves go. Hatton then used to get shredded. And Fury will get less fat.
Anyway Ross, like I say, I don't think Tyson's weight gain matters. It's not like he was in fantastic shape anyway. He'll be in the same shape as he was before and that was good enough to win.
Just an odd comparison that's all to compare a Ripped then Fat Light Welter with a Fat then Fatter Heavy.
You have to be kidding!Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanYeah Hatton got much bigger as a weight percentage of course, but how 'overweight' they get obviously depends on whether their starting point was already overweight. Ie 4 stone on a ripped physique is not 4 stone 'overweight', and 4 stone more weight on someone already 2 stone overweight makes them 6 stone overweight. So your logic is a bit faulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossEven if Tyson took another stone off to get ripped to the bone hes still only lost 4 stone to Hattons 5!!!:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmanAlthough that ignores that on fight night Hatton was cut to the bone and Fury is fat even at his most 'ripped'... So they aren't starting from the same place even relatively speaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Not that I think it matters to Fury. He'll be in the same shape he normally is. Which is fine for him. But the comparison you made is a bit wonky ;)
Hattons 5,7" Furys 6,9" clearly you can see Hatton was massively overweight compared to Fury?
Hatton ballooned up to add 50% of his fighting weight on.
Hatton probably got so fat that he got to about the same bf% as Tyson is now. So they're probably fairly even in terms of how out of shape they get. Both are fatties when they let themselves go. Hatton then used to get shredded. And Fury will get less fat.
Anyway Ross, like I say, I don't think Tyson's weight gain matters. It's not like he was in fantastic shape anyway. He'll be in the same shape as he was before and that was good enough to win.
Just an odd comparison that's all to compare a Ripped then Fat Light Welter with a Fat then Fatter Heavy.
Hatton had no neck at points in his career! Tyson has that odd shape where he has love handles. He doesnt have a huge gut, or flabby tits or a big double chin. He accumulates fat around hips.
Fury doesnt have to cut any weight. Hes in a division where no one can have a strength advantage because they can cut more weight than the next person. Hatton when in his more natural weight division got nearly knocked out by Collazo then got knocked out by Pacquiao and Mayweather. Tyson is fighting the biggest puncher in the world and beating him easy.
Of course he was in fntastic shape. To move 18.5 stone so nimbley around the most dangerous fighter in the world for 12 rounds id say is excellent fitness!
He sounds pretty straight and sincere about it there. Either helping/hoping Wlad takes him lightly or a man who has reached his goal and even says he cannot top last performance. Is that his daughter there at beginning? Personally hope he beats Wlad again. Don't mind the trinket scramble now compared to the bottle neck boredom aka dominance of Wlad.
I do. Wilder, AJ and the fat bloke Aussie caught on drugs fighting piss poor opponent after another is not my idea of good heavyweight scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
If Fury is getting fat between fights then crying about how hard it is to work it off, then he should show a little character and discipline and sort himself out. Being an athlete is not a hobby and as has been mentioned it was a major flaw in Hatton too and no doubt resulted in his pretty rapid and major decline. There is just no excuse for athletes to be fat. Ever. There is no excuse for ordinary people to be fat either. It is very difficult to eat enough food to actually make you obese yet it is so common in the blobby monster West. He is obviously a carbohydrate addict.
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The voice of reason!
Well, that is one area where I have to give full credit to your darling one. Floyd was always in shape and never really seemed out of shape when he wasn't boxing. He has great ethics in that sense and I think it was fantastic and said a lot that he can indulge in a burger here and there on the way. All the fat people stood aghast with looks of horror, but the occasional indulgence for someone who is healthy is perfectly reasonable. Good on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
You end up with people like Fury almost crying because they have to lose a little weight and go easy on the wheat addiction, but he could stay in shape all year round and enjoy a treat here and there if he wanted to. All this cutting weight and being miserable over it just seems a bit odd if you ask me.
If fury does walk away the division will be wide open for his deadly punching cousin.
If his goal was to beat Wlad then fuck off all power to him. Just don't bang on about it like you're Ronnie O'Sullivan. Do your thing and go and enjoy your money.
Miles he is normal sized right now for a nigh on 7 foot bloke, he isnt overly fat. Normal people dont look like Timothy Bradley on the scales.
Fury always looks flabby to me, but I guess that has become the norm over there, so people don't realise it as much. Chisora looks flabby sometimes too. In the olden days you had wonderful specimens like Tyson and Bruno. Just compare the physique of Wlad and Fury too and it looks night and day. The pub bouncer as compared with the chippendale. I know which one I would give a tip to!Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Very homoerotic undertones from grown men who want to see more muscle;D
When you can easiliy and nimbly move 18.5 stone around one of the greatest heavies ever for 12 rounds you are deffinitly in shape.