BJS and Eubank Jr. Fuck 'em both!

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm giving Saunders the benefit of the doubt here. He's as aware as anybody that he's probably not the best ever middleweight champion and that there's a good chance of him losing when he fights one of the top lads so he's after maximising the money the belt will earn him. It's a short career, you're a long time retired etc etc. What would you do if you were him?

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Call out Eubank Jr and then buy another horse.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm giving Saunders the benefit of the doubt here. He's as aware as anybody that he's probably not the best ever middleweight champion and that there's a good chance of him losing when he fights one of the top lads so he's after maximising the money the belt will earn him. It's a short career, you're a long time retired etc etc. What would you do if you were him?

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i would capitalise on being Champion and actually fight and defend my title. Talk about "maximising his earnings", well surely you can only do that if you actually fight?
He's been champion a year and hasn't defended it. He pulled out of a defence with a "minor hand injury that he did while having a wank!", apart from that, nothing.
You don't fight, you don't earn!

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm giving Saunders the benefit of the doubt here. He's as aware as anybody that he's probably not the best ever middleweight champion and that there's a good chance of him losing when he fights one of the top lads so he's after maximising the money the belt will earn him. It's a short career, you're a long time retired etc etc. What would you do if you were him?

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I'd fight everyone for peanuts every other week and go out in a heap. Then, I would develop a bad drinking problem and spend every day at various pubs around Ireland. BUT, every other time someone wanted to buy me a pint for being such a warrior, I'd kindly ask for a fiver instead, run to the bank and put it right into an RRSP. If my liver held up, it would be roughly a trade off at worst.

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm giving Saunders the benefit of the doubt here. He's as aware as anybody that he's probably not the best ever middleweight champion and that there's a good chance of him losing when he fights one of the top lads so he's after maximising the money the belt will earn him. It's a short career, you're a long time retired etc etc. What would you do if you were him?

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i would capitalise on being Champion and actually fight and defend my title. Talk about "maximising his earnings", well surely you can only do that if you actually fight?
He's been champion a year and hasn't defended it. He pulled out of a defence with a "minor hand injury that he did while having a wank!", apart from that, nothing.
You don't fight, you don't earn!

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I don't think he's expecting to hang on to his title for very long. He's looking for the biggest payday he can get. He can always fight Eubank later on, he doesn't need a title to earn out of that one.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm giving Saunders the benefit of the doubt here. He's as aware as anybody that he's probably not the best ever middleweight champion and that there's a good chance of him losing when he fights one of the top lads so he's after maximising the money the belt will earn him. It's a short career, you're a long time retired etc etc. What would you do if you were him?

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i would capitalise on being Champion and actually fight and defend my title. Talk about "maximising his earnings", well surely you can only do that if you actually fight?
He's been champion a year and hasn't defended it. He pulled out of a defence with a "minor hand injury that he did while having a wank!", apart from that, nothing.
You don't fight, you don't earn!

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I don't think he's expecting to hang on to his title for very long. He's looking for the biggest payday he can get. He can always fight Eubank later on, he doesn't need a title to earn out of that one.

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That is very short term view, BJS is young and can easily make easy defences to earn money rather than cash out.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm giving Saunders the benefit of the doubt here. He's as aware as anybody that he's probably not the best ever middleweight champion and that there's a good chance of him losing when he fights one of the top lads so he's after maximising the money the belt will earn him. It's a short career, you're a long time retired etc etc. What would you do if you were him?

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i would capitalise on being Champion and actually fight and defend my title. Talk about "maximising his earnings", well surely you can only do that if you actually fight?
He's been champion a year and hasn't defended it. He pulled out of a defence with a "minor hand injury that he did while having a wank!", apart from that, nothing.
You don't fight, you don't earn!

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I don't think he's expecting to hang on to his title for very long. He's looking for the biggest payday he can get. He can always fight Eubank later on, he doesn't need a title to earn out of that one.

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That is very short term view, BJS is young and can easily make easy defences to earn money rather than cash out.

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I don't think he can. Warren needs to show big fights to keep his TV channel alive. Saunders is going to get one easy fight next and then a big one according to Warren. We'll see how big the big fight is if we ever get there.

The big one could be Canelo, GGG or Eubank Jnr.

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Originally Posted by Master

The big one could be Canelo, GGG or Eubank Jnr.

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Canelo won't come here , so Frank or BJS won't want it, he avoids GGG like the plague, so that leaves Eubank Jr. again , which is a massive piss take to the punters unless it is a British title fight.

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The big one could be Canelo, GGG or Eubank Jnr.

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Canelo won't come here , so Frank or BJS won't want it, he avoids GGG like the plague, so that leaves Eubank Jr. again , which is a massive piss take to the punters unless it is a British title fight.

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BJS holds a title so it would be for a world alphabet title.

I think BJS is a good fighter, I think he'd beat all but a small handful of middleweights

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Originally Posted by erics44

I think BJS is a good fighter, I think he'd beat all but a small handful of middleweights

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I don't entirely disagree, but perhaps he should prove that by actually going out and fighting them.

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by erics44

I think BJS is a good fighter, I think he'd beat all but a small handful of middleweights

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I don't entirely disagree, but perhaps he should prove that by actually going out and fighting them.

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He has by beating Andy Lee.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by erics44

I think BJS is a good fighter, I think he'd beat all but a small handful of middleweights

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I don't entirely disagree, but perhaps he should prove that by actually going out and fighting them.

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He has by beating Andy Lee.

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Andy Lee? For fucks sake!

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera

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Originally Posted by erics44

I think BJS is a good fighter, I think he'd beat all but a small handful of middleweights

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I don't entirely disagree, but perhaps he should prove that by actually going out and fighting them.

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He has by beating Andy Lee.

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Andy Lee? For fucks sake!

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Andy has beaten a number of undefeated fighters and drew with Quillin.

Right , Andy Lee. He was finished as a MW and Adam Booth said he was better suited to LMW. So they took a money fight in order to put a name on Julian Jackson's up and coming Son's record. Jackson battered him for 5 rounds until Lee found a haymaker from the stars to knock out Jackson and scupper his plans.
Then after talking about how he was now a LMW, because of his connections with Lou di Bella and BJS and Korobov stalling, he got a shot at the title against Korobov. Korobov at the time had a great pedigree and was seen as the favourite against BJS And Andy Lee.
Korobov was battering Lee and lightning struck again! To be fair , he did finish the job off well, but as a boxer , he was getting outclassed.
So Lee is then Champ and again with his U.S. Connections, Quillin's team paid him good money thinking this was an easy route back to a title. What they didn't bargain for was that Quillin had no desire left and couldn't even manage to come in on weight.
So Lee had the luxury of knowing no matter what happened, he couldn't lose his title. And Quillin knew he couldn't become champ. So it ended up being a totally meaningless draw and we have since found out that Quillin is fuck all.
Hardly Sugar Ray Robinson is he?