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Not really a big one but this one should be a barn burner just the same....Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Saturday 29 October 2016
Palenque Vicente Fernandez, Gomez Palacio, Durango, Mexico
Cristian Mijares 54 8 2
vs
Shohei Kawashima 14 0 2
Featherweight
WBC Silver featherweight title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2FZVQpdwV8
Nice battle.
Is it crazy/annoying to anyone else that PPV fights today wouldn't have even made HBO/Showtime prior to 2000? Think about it: Barrera vs Morales, Barrera vs Hamed, Barrera vs Pac, Hagler vs Hearns, Oscar vs Mosely...etc., were available on cable networks. Manny vs Vargas?!?!? Garcia vs Thurman?!?!? Canelo vs any bum he decides to extend his charade against next?!?!? THOSE are PPV worthy fights today???? What a joke.
That is seriously bad for boxing when this crap is ppv. People should stop buying these cards and that will tell the promoters and tv companies that they can not keep taking the piss out of fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Think all of those were ppv also or close circuit with Hagler-Hearns. Huge difference compared to Canelo's traveling farce is most if not all were respected as competitive fights prior to the opening bell. They've just turned it into a feeding troff.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
True but ppv should be the exception not the rule and now bad fights are classed as ppv because of the greed which will kill the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThink all of those were ppv also or close circuit with Hagler-Hearns. Huge difference compared to Canelo's traveling farce is most if not all were respected as competitive fights prior to the opening bell. They've just turned it into a feeding troff.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Exactly, ppv is ideal for the culmination of the build of a fighter. The network features them on 'regular' network shows, sometimes featuring proposed opponents and then leads to a big fight. How we'd like it or how it should be anyway. Kovalev vs Ward should be the norm. More often than not now a promoter just uses them as vehicle to feature fighters in heavily favored bouts. Honestly Manny v Vargas is decent..not great but decent. It just doesn't belong near a PPV. Crawford-Postol good fight. Terrible ppv. Canelo-Smith was probably one of the worst ppv cards can remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTrue but ppv should be the exception not the rule and now bad fights are classed as ppv because of the greed which will kill the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThink all of those were ppv also or close circuit with Hagler-Hearns. Huge difference compared to Canelo's traveling farce is most if not all were respected as competitive fights prior to the opening bell. They've just turned it into a feeding troff.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Think the only two that may have been PPV were Oscar vs Shane and MAB vs Morales 3. Hell, MAB vs McKinney was on the first HBO boxing after dark and that was light years better than Canelo vs Smith. Hamed vs Kelley was HBO as well. In the early nineties we paid 10 bucks to watch Evander decision Foreman, and 20 to watch Riddick beat Evander for the title. Lennox Lewis blew out Razor Ruddock Halloween night on HBO. Talk about changing for the worse. Pretty sure Meldrick Taylor vs JCC 1 was on HBO as well. I'm getting depressed now...Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThink all of those were ppv also or close circuit with Hagler-Hearns. Huge difference compared to Canelo's traveling farce is most if not all were respected as competitive fights prior to the opening bell. They've just turned it into a feeding troff.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod
Now you pay $100 for Floyd v Manny, 5 years past its sell by date. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeodThink the only two that may have been PPV were Oscar vs Shane and MAB vs Morales 3. Hell, MAB vs McKinney was on the first HBO boxing after dark and that was light years better than Canelo vs Smith. Hamed vs Kelley was HBO as well. In the early nineties we paid 10 bucks to watch Evander decision Foreman, and 20 to watch Riddick beat Evander for the title. Lennox Lewis blew out Razor Ruddock Halloween night on HBO. Talk about changing for the worse. Pretty sure Meldrick Taylor vs JCC 1 was on HBO as well. I'm getting depressed now...Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThink all of those were ppv also or close circuit with Hagler-Hearns. Huge difference compared to Canelo's traveling farce is most if not all were respected as competitive fights prior to the opening bell. They've just turned it into a feeding troff.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeod