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Do not even go there. Ali gave up his title and millions for his belief that takes courage and conviction. Nothing to do with being afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Clay was a pup of a hw , that why the 12 stone 11 cooper knocked him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He was however the greatest coward muslim of all time.
Remember young De La Hoya being bounced off the canvas by a couple guys brought in to fall over early in career.
Yes he gave up the right to be looked at in the same light as great champions like Joe Louis who didn't dodge the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDo not even go there. Ali gave up his title and millions for his belief that takes courage and conviction. Nothing to do with being afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlClay was a pup of a hw , that why the 12 stone 11 cooper knocked him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He was however the greatest coward muslim of all time.
He chose to be muslim not American , typical hypocrite.
That's rubbish. First off if you can't appreciate the difference between WW2 and Vietnam then I don't really know what to tell you. Aside from that, Joe Louis never saw combat(though he might well have been willing to, I'm not sure). He fought charity exhibition bouts in order to entertain the troops and raise morale. Ali could have quite easily done the same thing, there was no chance he would have been deployed for action in any scenario. The stance he took required a lot more courage than doing that would have, and it had nothing to do with his being a Muslim, which wasn't seen as any more abrasive than being black was in those days in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYes he gave up the right to be looked at in the same light as great champions like Joe Louis who didn't dodge the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDo not even go there. Ali gave up his title and millions for his belief that takes courage and conviction. Nothing to do with being afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlClay was a pup of a hw , that why the 12 stone 11 cooper knocked him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He was however the greatest coward muslim of all time.
He chose to be muslim not American , typical hypocrite.
Clay would never have been sent to the front line either , the fact is he abandoned his country for his religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingThat's rubbish. First off if you can't appreciate the difference between WW2 and Vietnam then I don't really know what to tell you. Aside from that, Joe Louis never saw combat(though he might well have been willing to, I'm not sure). He fought charity exhibition bouts in order to entertain the troops and raise morale. Ali could have quite easily done the same thing, there was no chance he would have been deployed for action in any scenario. The stance he took required a lot more courage than doing that would have, and it had nothing to do with his being a Muslim, which wasn't seen as any more abrasive than being black was in those days in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYes he gave up the right to be looked at in the same light as great champions like Joe Louis who didn't dodge the draft.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDo not even go there. Ali gave up his title and millions for his belief that takes courage and conviction. Nothing to do with being afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlClay was a pup of a hw , that why the 12 stone 11 cooper knocked him down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He was however the greatest coward muslim of all time.
He chose to be muslim not American , typical hypocrite.
Can we stick Floyd Cummings poleaxing Frank in here? I know he never actually went down but that was purely due to the Moons position in relation to Jupiter or some shit, he was out.
Cummings only had 22 fights and Frank was the last on his journeyman road. He'd already been beaten by a handful of other names.
Bruno was not knocked downQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Thanks for pointing out the already pointed out Master ;D I wasnt really asking if Bruno Cummings could go in, it's in.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterBruno was not knocked downQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Bruno was never knocked down in his whole career
lb4lb the greatest fighter in history
He did trip a fair few times immediately after getting a wallop on the chin. You're right though, they arent the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I see you are a man who knows boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by MemphisHe did trip a fair few times immediately after getting a wallop on the chin. You're right though, they arent the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
its refreshing that every now and again I can have a intelligent conversation about the sport I love on this forum