I don't see how the Joshua vs Wlad fight makes Fury look better. Wlad was absolutely shocking against Fury and JUST lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
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I don't see how the Joshua vs Wlad fight makes Fury look better. Wlad was absolutely shocking against Fury and JUST lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
I have it the same. Fury is out for inactivity and being unlicensed. Parker then Pulev after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
As far as im concerned until someone beats Fury he has to remain top of the pile
I honestly would be amazed if anyone in the division can handle his size and awkward style, as much as i don't like watching the way he "fights" he's a fucking nightmare of an opponent for anyone.
He made Wlad look like a little boy and toyed with him for fun whereas AJ was the total opposite and had to fight for his life and climb off the floor to win.
I'd rather watch AJ all day long over Fury as i wanna see fights that entertain but Fury for me is the man to beat.
The best matchup in the division is Wilder v AJ for me - i also think the Klitschko we saw on Saturday would beat Wilder ;)
Fury
Joshua
Klitschko
Wilder
Parker
I agree with your comments on Fury but at the end of May it will be over 18 months since he last fought. He is unlicensed and has an alleged failed drug test/ hearing hanging over his head. How much leeway do you give him?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
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Originally Posted by AlphaI agree with your comments on Fury but at the end of May it will be over 18 months since he last fought. He is unlicensed and has an alleged failed drug test/ hearing hanging over his head. How much leeway do you give him?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think seeing AJ lording it up in front of 90,000 fans and parading Furys belts around will have seriously got under Furys skin and will 100% be the kick up the ass he needs to get his nut down and return to the ring.
He must have sat there watching the fight on Saturday thinking that should be me, will he be the same fighter though, he's 27 stone at the moment :-\
That's why I was asking as you had Fury #1 even after all the inactivity. We really don't know what he'll be like if he returns.
Some people give fury too much credit. He was not that good of a fighter. He had a good win against wlad, but he really never looked impressive at all in any other fight. Sure he won, but he had a lot more trouble with other fighters than he did with wlad.
If he were active, I'm fine with him being #1, but it's not like he's Floyd mayweather on a hiatus who is clearly the best fighter in the world. If fury ever did comeback, I doubt he really does much.
As I said loads of times, The best Fury we have ever seen JUST outpointed the worst Wlad we have ever seen. People like Maddelone and Cunnigham put Fury on his ass, imagine what Joshua would do.
AJ
Klitschko
Povetkin
Ortiz
Pulev
Joseph Parker really isn't that good, he received a home gift decision over Takam. Wilder has avoided all the decent HWs.
Tyson Fury is very good, but because of his personal problems and inactivity, I didn't include him.
Povetkin had his chance to fight Wilder and took drugs. He should not be on your list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
I agree. If Fury is out then Povetkin should be too until he beats a contender to get rated again. Same with Browne. I had Parker drawing with both Takam and Ruiz.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterPovetkin had his chance to fight Wilder and took drugs. He should not be on your list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
u wot m8.. povetkin has been beating contenders steadily since wlad wrestled him to defeat, it was only late last year when he ko'd duhaupass and he is due to fight again in july... The only reason not to include povetkin would be his dodgy record with drug tests :S well and if you dont rate him that highly of course :S I do rate povetkin very highly but he is ageing now and the doping means I wouldnt have him top 5 anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI agree. If Fury is out then Povetkin should be too until he beats a contender to get rated again. Same with Browne. I had Parker drawing with both Takam and Ruiz.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterPovetkin had his chance to fight Wilder and took drugs. He should not be on your list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freedom
I would also not rank fury right now due to him semi retiring and I think the personal problems are pretty closely, linked to his potential doping ban..#
so with these two missing my top 5 would look pretty much the same as everyone elses so i will try to include some different names and try to justify them for fun :S
joshua
wladimir
pulev
Ortiz
Tom Schwarz :S
I am skeptical about ortiz and i think pulev would win a decision over him.. I am not sure if ortiz should be top 5 hopefully we get to see more of him soon before he ages anymore :S
Aj
wilder
wlad
fury
briggs
you are mistaken brocktodamus oquendo is about to reclaim his rightful place as the 5th best heavyweight in the world !Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
James Toney
Wilder
Joshua
Fury
Klitschko