Re: Bellew is like an annoying itch you can't get rid of.
There's no difference between Bellew overrating himself and you bods that hate him underrating him. Just because he's a delusional big mouth it doesn't take away from his achievements.
And he's right about Wilder, Haye would be the best name on his record, therefore he has every right to claim he's beat a better name than him.
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Fenster
There's no difference between Bellew overrating himself and you bods that hate him underrating him. Just because he's a delusional big mouth it doesn't take away from his achievements.
And he's right about Wilder, Haye would be the best name on his record, therefore he has every right to claim he's beat a better name than him.
His achievements aint shit!
Re: Bellew is like an annoying itch you can't get rid of.
That depends on who you're comparing him with.
He's won the British, Commonwealth, European and "world" title. He's beat a bunch of independently world rated top 10 fighters, won three rematches and pulled off a bunch of upsets.
He's achieved more than many a better fighter.
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That depends on who you're comparing him with.
He's won the British, Commonwealth, European and "world" title. He's beat a bunch of independently world rated top 10 fighters, won three rematches and pulled off a bunch of upsets.
He's achieved more than many a better fighter.
As usual Sir, you make case that looks impressive on paper, but break it down and you know he's beaten nobody except a Cleverley who had no place at CW. Yeah on paper his achievements look pretty good.
Re: Bellew is like an annoying itch you can't get rid of.
Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.
Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.
If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.
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I think we all know the Wilder fight will probably happen.
Comedy gold
One of his comedy gold comments was that he beat the "bogey man" of the division and that he has the best name on his record than AJ or Wilder did until Anthony beat Wlad last night. Joker actually believes everything he says.
Thing is tho, which one of them had a bigger name on their record?
I think bellew is generally under rated by most
I also think he's mr right place at the right time tho
1st sentence- this bigger name bollocks is horseshit. Haye proved even before his Achilles went against Bellew in the first few rounds that he is finished. He was shite and he was still beating Bellew.
2nd sentence - underrated? Are you fucking serious? He is the biggest self proclaimed hype job in Boxing.
3rd sentence - agree 100%. All about timing.
I don't think you're wrong or I am right
All I am saying is haye is a bigger name than anyone on wilders record
Yeah my gran would probably have beaten haye from round 5 on that night, but still
And yes I think that people who know boxing (if you're counting people on this site those people) underrare bellew, he is better than people give him credit for
Having said that I think his current standing is much higher than his ability
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Primo Carnera
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erics44
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Master
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Mark TKO
I think we all know the Wilder fight will probably happen.
Comedy gold
One of his comedy gold comments was that he beat the "bogey man" of the division and that he has the best name on his record than AJ or Wilder did until Anthony beat Wlad last night. Joker actually believes everything he says.
Thing is tho, which one of them had a bigger name on their record?
I think bellew is generally under rated by most
I also think he's mr right place at the right time tho
1st sentence- this bigger name bollocks is horseshit. Haye proved even before his Achilles went against Bellew in the first few rounds that he is finished. He was shite and he was still beating Bellew.
2nd sentence - underrated? Are you fucking serious? He is the biggest self proclaimed hype job in Boxing.
3rd sentence - agree 100%. All about timing.
I don't think you're wrong or I am right
All I am saying is haye is a bigger name than anyone on wilders record
Yeah my gran would probably have beaten haye from round 5 on that night, but still
And yes I think that people who know boxing (if you're counting people on this site those people) underrare bellew, he is better than people give him credit for
Having said that I think his current standing is much higher than his ability
Mate, if you think his current standing is much higher than his ability, how is he underrated? :confused:
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Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.
Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.
If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.
I with @Fenster and @erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.
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Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.
Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.
If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.
I with @
Fenster and @
erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.
Did you see the size disparity between them. The fight would be comical.
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Watching Wilder fight is comical.
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Watching Wilder fight is comical.
Hearing Bellew is even more comical.
Re: Bellew is like an annoying itch you can't get rid of.
I've done a complete U-Turn with Bellew, used to hate the guy and his annoying rants but the way he conducted himself after the Haye stoppage won me over.
You gotta give him props for putting himself where he currently is, he got the Haye fight and the big payday he dreamed of and can earn the Lions share in a rematch which is what he should do then retire.
He'll bag over £4 Million next time.
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I've done a complete U-Turn with Bellew, used to hate the guy and his annoying rants but the way he conducted himself after the Haye stoppage won me over.
You gotta give him props for putting himself where he currently is, he got the Haye fight and the big payday he dreamed of and can earn the Lions share in a rematch which is what he should do then retire.
He'll bag over £4 Million next time.
That is his only real option, the fights with Wilder, Fury and even Parker are mismatches.
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Dunno mate - He was big underdog against lights-out Makabu, has solid world level wins over Masternak and Chilemba, the dangerous Ovil McKenzie was robbed for a "world" title after Bellew beat him and he pulled the upset over Haye, regardless of the circumstances.
Again.. depends on who he's being compared with. I'm judging him solely on what he's done in boxing not his personality.
If he says "i'm an all-time great," it can be proved he's talking bollocks as he's not achieved that status. I think he's proved to be more than labeled toilet though. That's all i'm saying.
I with @
Fenster and @
erics44 on this. Bellew is on a decent run and is over achieving if anything. The Haye win may have been a fluke with the injury but he still had to survive until it ended. I remember most picking Bellew to be blown out in a round or 2. Wilder probably sparks him but his technique is so awful he could get clipped.
It's just childish nonsense, they (I don't mean everyone that dislikes him, you can argue his form doesn't meet your standards etc) can't differentiate between their feelings for someone they don't like with the reality of what he's done in the ring.
If someone keeps proving you wrong it's time to accept you're wrong, if you can't you're forever destined to be an imbecile.
