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Yes, Tszyu is that skilled, not in the first round though. Zab made two mistakes, one leaning away with his hands down, and two, leaning to his left to evade Tszyu's right hand which actually instead of making Judah evade it, made him collide with it. We'll see what kind of heart PBF has if Judah can make him dig deep it would be impressive.
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The Tszyu fight proves a point though. We can say Zab is as focused as ever. But his problem is his chin. Focused or not, when he gets cracked square on his jaw, he's in trouble.
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If anyone gets cracked square on the jae by Tszyu they are in trouble.
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Wrong. Hatton and Ben Tackie took good shots from Tszyu, and neither hit the canvas. Judah just cant take a good punch.
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Wrong. Hatton and Ben Tackie took good shots from Tszyu, and neither hit the canvas. Judah just cant take a good punch.
I agree that Judah don't always take punches well, but Tackie has a good chin, and Tszyu could never time Ricky because of his movement. The punches that Tszyu connected with were shortened punches. Tszyu had to make adjustments, just to be able to hit Ricky cleanly. Instead of trying to do major damage, Tszyu just wanted to at least make contact.
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It depends on how you get hit and leverage. Otherwise it would be impossible to explain why Tackie stood strong against Tszyu and Hatton but was knocked down by Sharmba Mitchell.
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Two things:
1) He was focused versus Cory Spinks, not exactly a huge threat.
2) He was "focused" for Tszyu, and we see how well that turned out.
he wasnt focussed in the same manner,
he thought he was invincible,
he knows better now
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however, i do not...
JUDAH WILL CRUSH VALUEV!!!
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its not really fair to judge judahs chin from the tszyu fight only. that was a hell of a shot he took that would have droped most
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The only reason Tszyu and Baldimor could beat Zab Judah the way they did is because they could take what Judah was throwing at them and push forward on the attack.
Mayweather isn't as physicaly strong as these two fighters and will need to rely on defense and counter punching.
I feel that at some point Mayweather is going to get taged really hard and we may even see a little dance from him.
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I can see Mayweather getting tagged too. The problem is that he has all around better skill. So, Judah better capitalize on any big opportunity that he gets, if he even gets one. PBF is going to be on top of his game overall though. The guy has never lost for no reason. So unless he's sleep like Tyson came in against Buster Douglas, then PBF is going to win again. I think he's a smart fighter. He knows what he's up against.
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The only reason Tszyu and Baldimor could beat Zab Judah the way they did is because they could take what Judah was throwing at them and push forward on the attack.
Mayweather isn't as physicaly strong as these two fighters and will need to rely on defense and counter punching.
Very true. I just have to be a cc whore (in 24) on this one, even though it's obvious, that you pointed out the physical strength of both Kostya and Baldomir.
But what about the inconsistencies with Split Decisions with Chop Chop, Pineda and the first lackluster *loss to Spinks? Spinks was solved because he tired himself out, but what about the other "closer-than-should've-been" fights.
Assume that was Judah, no more no less, not lazy... or any excuses his fans give him. But just plain Judah. What if the real Judah is who he is? Not unfocused... but as a fighter, he just plain sucks. heh :D
How can you choose a fighter that *"sucks" over a fighter that wins?
*even Mike Tyson said, Judah lost because he didn't take it to Spinks.
*sucks: I say that only to make myself clear, I don't mean to upset the Judah fans or discredit Judah as a legit name in the Welterweight division.
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Wrong. Hatton and Ben Tackie took good shots from Tszyu, and neither hit the canvas. Judah just cant take a good punch.
too right he cant :coolclick:
baldomir was hardly a power punching ko artist himself and he had zab on the back foot for half the fight!!!