Horn decision makes me rethink boxing

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Originally Posted by erics44

I thought all the Pac JMM fights ended with the correct result :)

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They were good competitive fights but JMM won them all and one of the main reasons why they fought so often was because Manny Pac was awarded the fight controversially.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Master

Bad decisions happen in boxing and in a way it shows that if the A side fighter can lose a bad decision that everyone has a chance. :)

BTW JMM won all his fights against Manny Pac.

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Your last statement proves you are not worthy of mod status

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I genuinely had JMM winning all the 3 fights that went to the judges.

Just to keep you happy @walrus, Manny Pac was ahead before he was brutally knocked out in their 4th fight. :)

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If @Master included my name there beside @walrus, I'd forgive him.;D And if he sez Manny was robbed despite the KO, I'd make him the administration Master.;)

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Originally Posted by erics44

I thought all the Pac JMM fights ended with the correct result :)

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Congrats a new mod is born

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by erics44

I thought all the Pac JMM fights ended with the correct result :)

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They were good competitive fights but JMM won them all and one of the main reasons why they fought so often was because Manny Pac was awarded the fight controversially.

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i don't think JMM won them all and I don't think controversy was the reason for more fights £

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by erics44

I thought all the Pac JMM fights ended with the correct result :)

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They were good competitive fights but JMM won them all and one of the main reasons why they fought so often was because Manny Pac was awarded the fight controversially.

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i don't think JMM won them all and I don't think controversy was the reason for more fights £

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Manny could have said I have beaten you 3 times so why would I need to fight you again but he knew he was lucky and wanted to prove he was the better fighter.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by erics44

I thought all the Pac JMM fights ended with the correct result :)

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They were good competitive fights but JMM won them all and one of the main reasons why they fought so often was because Manny Pac was awarded the fight controversially.

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i don't think JMM won them all and I don't think controversy was the reason for more fights £

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Manny could have said I have beaten you 3 times so why would I need to fight you again but he knew he was lucky and wanted to prove he was the better fighter.

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nooooooo, I don't really remember the circumstance round the first 3 fights but when the last one was made I don't think there was much option

or a better option

or an option any where near as good

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Originally Posted by holmcall

For some inexplicable reason, it seems it?s relatively easy to cheat this ATG. That first round against JMM that was wrongly scored, the Bradley disgrace, and now this, Reminds of how Oscar, another ATG, was treated. Oscar complained. Many doesn't. Maybe that's why he gets treated this way. But when Oscar lost to Tito, I left boxing for a while.


This one gives me that same feeling of disgust about the entire business. Casamayor vs. Santa Cruz and Foreman vs Briggs also put me at the brink. It's almost like I am colluding in something that lacks a moral underbelly-- something that is innately tenuous at best and foul at worst. I think it's called a moral compass and mine just tiled to the wrong side again.

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I don't think it should be that serious. By the way I thought Horn won. In Asia (Australian boxing is heavily influenced by Thailand) fights are scored differently and aggression and forcing the other fighter backwards is everything. Horn trained his ass off, he should be proud.

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Originally Posted by erics44

or a better option

or an option any where near as good

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I think you have too many options. :)

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Originally Posted by Master

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or a better option

or an option any where near as good

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I think you have too many options. :)

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That is what makes him a good mod

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by erics44

or a better option

or an option any where near as good

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I think you have too many options. :)

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That is what makes him a good mod

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Have you seen eric p4p posts? Read them. The man is crackers.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Perhaps you get so frustrated because you don't actually understand what you are speaking about. For example that first round wasn't wrongly scored. The judge misinterpreted his options. It didn't have to be 10-6. The judge just didn't know it could be because most judges won't go to 10-6. So it wasn't scored wrong. It just could have been scored differently.

Pac has benefitted from a couple bad decisions and been hurt by a couple. It evened out.

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Your post is one of many reasons why I have you on my ignore list. In short, you are an ...........e

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Not sure bad calls even out so much as just cancels out in the eyes of fan or detractors. A guy taking an iffy loss early in career is far far different than a guy coming back or rebuilding after one near the end of career. With Oscar-Tito it was a tail of two fights and has been knocked back and forth ever since. But Oscar put himself in that negative light at the tail end. Fans will instinctively hold a guy literally running and disengaging against them but still had that as extremely close I believe right down to one point. Briggs v Foreman and Casa vs Santa Cruz were outright robberies.

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Those two were terrible. Toney-Tiberi was another.

I am somewhat surprised about the decision but more surprised how Manny struggled to easily destroy a journeyman.

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Originally Posted by holmcall

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

Perhaps you get so frustrated because you don't actually understand what you are speaking about. For example that first round wasn't wrongly scored. The judge misinterpreted his options. It didn't have to be 10-6. The judge just didn't know it could be because most judges won't go to 10-6. So it wasn't scored wrong. It just could have been scored differently.

Pac has benefitted from a couple bad decisions and been hurt by a couple. It evened out.

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Your post is one of many reasons why I have you on my ignore list. In short, you are an ...........e

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Didn't disagree with a word I said and can't because it is all true. But insulted me. I should learn to call people names so I can be popular.

Since so many want to call me names I think I will explain myself. I talk to people here as if we knew each other. Very smart ass, very tongue in cheek. You all will notice I don't insult anyone. Because I mean no insult. I talk in an insulting manner because that is how friends talk. It's BSing. But insulting people is different, it's hostile. So all those that want to continue insulting me perhaps keep that in mind.