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Don't f*cking retire. Come back angry and prove the doubters wrong. I'm still smarting from those losses to Ward, as Ward can now pick and choose his way to an undefeated record with maybe a couple more fights, to preserve the "0". Just what we need..... another f*cking Mayweather. I don't see anyone in the horizon who can beat Ward, or even get a decent decision against him.
He was getting $5000 a fight when he didn't have a promoter. Kathy Duva then signed him and convinced HBO to show him (who later signed him to a proper deal), the world title shot against Cleverly and several 7-figure paydays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
3-4 years ago he was fighting for $5000 dollars a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
We heard about the "bad deal" he had for his last fight because it was so high profile.
If he was getting shit pay then and shit pay in his last fight in relative terms, then it stands to reason he was getting shit pay in between.
He's probably a bit naive in business terms, understandable for a guy earning in a strange country and he's a boxer , not a business guru.
It's a shame ,
I'm not saying he hasn't been shafted but his career looks pretty much the norm for any fighter that goes from zero to hero. Whether or not they keep the wealth they amass, or get wrapped up in shitty deals is another matter. It's par for the course in boxing for manager/promoter/fighter splits - and you can guarantee all parties will claim they were the one getting chivved.
I'd be disappointed if he finished his career that way. I heard talk of a Barrera fight at the end of the year. That's a good fight.
I am sure Kov will get his mojo back and start smashing people up again. I would hate to be one of his opponent with all that anger, hate and resentment he must be feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Looks like he did quit in the rematch..
http://www.boxingscene.com/john-davi...e-quit--120212
There's still big fights for him but if he quit against Ward
Then what's the point in coming back and fighting again?
He'll probably fight a few times in Russia and call it a career.
It seems obvious that the relationship with Kov and his trainer Jackson has deteriorated to the extend they will go their separate ways.
Jackson is saying Kov did not train as hard but also says he does not like taking body shots. Yet he was willing to go over to Ward's camp which shows that he is a disloyal man.
Artur Beterbiev now is favourite to beat Kov now
There are always two sides of the story but generally there is truth to each side. I'm wondering if Kovalev really didn't train that hard? Maybe he got overconfident?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
It is unlikely Kov would get overconfident especialy as he lost, in fact he would have trained harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherThere are always two sides of the story but generally there is truth to each side. I'm wondering if Kovalev really didn't train that hard? Maybe he got overconfident?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Although I do not think Kov quit because of lack of training and remember those were low blows.
I was just going to post that. No love lost there. How many times can you say he can't take it to the body in one interview. Jackson's not taking any chances that Kovalev's next opponents won't know how to fight him. Oh and he's* a cunt as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
*Kovalev, not Jackson.
Can he be successful at Cruiser?
This is getting silly Master.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Give Ward his props.
The first fight could have went either way but Kovalev was in deep water in the 2nd half this time.
Kovalev is used to beating and bullying fighters around but this time a smaller man put him in his place.
Remember, Ward moved up to challenge the best at that weight...no catchweight, no adonis, no nothing.
He went for the best and beat him.
I was backing Kov for that fight, them punches were low but without them Ward would have got a legitimate stoppage with no controversy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is unlikely Kov would get overconfident especialy as he lost, in fact he would have trained harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherThere are always two sides of the story but generally there is truth to each side. I'm wondering if Kovalev really didn't train that hard? Maybe he got overconfident?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Although I do not think Kov quit because of lack of training and remember those were low blows.
McGregor said that if he was allowed to see the 10th round out without throwing a single punch then he would have got a second wind.
If my Grandma had bollocks she'd be my Grandad
First fight was extremely close (and I gave it to Kov) second fight there was only one winner, credit where its due and all that
Read what I said Kov did not quit because of lack of training, Ward beat him and was the better man but those were low blows. It was still a close fight but Ward was the better man ultimately.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanI was backing Kov for that fight, them punches were low but without them Ward would have got a legitimate stoppage with no controversy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is unlikely Kov would get overconfident especialy as he lost, in fact he would have trained harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncherThere are always two sides of the story but generally there is truth to each side. I'm wondering if Kovalev really didn't train that hard? Maybe he got overconfident?Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
Although I do not think Kov quit because of lack of training and remember those were low blows.
McGregor said that if he was allowed to see the 10th round out without throwing a single punch then he would have got a second wind.
If my Grandma had bollocks she'd be my Grandad
First fight was extremely close (and I gave it to Kov) second fight there was only one winner, credit where its due and all that
Kov should have taken a knee and fouled him back instead he quit and lost.
I would like to see Roach train him. He trains Tommy's son.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master