Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
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Floyd is usually defensive and he's always safety first
But against Conor he just did not give a FUCK!
He showed Conor no respect and just walked in on him.
He found out McGregor's power was a myth
And then just walked him down with a smile.
Or Floyd was cautious for 2 rounds for no justifiable reason and then took another 8 long rounds to beat someone who has never boxed professionally before in his life.
He was coming off a long lay off and he is 40 years old
Plus he had no footage of Conor as a Boxer to study in preparation
So he didn't know what Conor was going to do in there.
He took his time and felt him out which was smart
No need to rush when he's got 12 rounds to do the job.
Or an man of Floyd's vast experience should have worked out that Conor had nothing and should have stepped it up earlier and stopped the cage fighter who looked embarrassingly amateurish.
That's not his style though
Why change a style that's worked for the past 49 fights?
Conor was 12 years younger and naturally a lot larger.
If Conor fought somebody his own size and age (Canelo)
He'd have got knocked out early but he picked a 40 year old
Floyd picked Conor and they set this "sting" up a year ago.
I think Conor called out Floyd whilst Mayweather was retired
Floyd saw an opportunity to make easy money and took it.
Floyd was always going to come out of "retirement" for the 50th fight and it should have been against a real boxer. In fact that should not even count as 50. That was a glorified sparring match.
I didn't think it was all that bad and if I had to choose
I'd rather watch that again over the Pacquiao fight.
Floyd got to go to 50-0, make a ton of money
And he did it without taking a risk! That's just good business.
I don't mind if the MMA and Irish fans want to add to his retirement fund.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
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Floyd is usually defensive and he's always safety first
But against Conor he just did not give a FUCK!
He showed Conor no respect and just walked in on him.
He found out McGregor's power was a myth
And then just walked him down with a smile.
Or Floyd was cautious for 2 rounds for no justifiable reason and then took another 8 long rounds to beat someone who has never boxed professionally before in his life.
He was coming off a long lay off and he is 40 years old
Plus he had no footage of Conor as a Boxer to study in preparation
So he didn't know what Conor was going to do in there.
He took his time and felt him out which was smart
No need to rush when he's got 12 rounds to do the job.
Or an man of Floyd's vast experience should have worked out that Conor had nothing and should have stepped it up earlier and stopped the cage fighter who looked embarrassingly amateurish.
That's not his style though
Why change a style that's worked for the past 49 fights?
Conor was 12 years younger and naturally a lot larger.
If Conor fought somebody his own size and age (Canelo)
He'd have got knocked out early but he picked a 40 year old
Floyd picked Conor and they set this "sting" up a year ago.
I think Conor called out Floyd whilst Mayweather was retired
Floyd saw an opportunity to make easy money and took it.
Floyd was always going to come out of "retirement" for the 50th fight and it should have been against a real boxer. In fact that should not even count as 50. That was a glorified sparring match.
So it wasn't a real fight, it wasn't against a real boxer, it shouldn't count as 50 and it was a glorified sparring match...
where the fuck is Primo, I reckon that there is a decisions that needs reversing here
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Floyd is usually defensive and he's always safety first
But against Conor he just did not give a FUCK!
He showed Conor no respect and just walked in on him.
He found out McGregor's power was a myth
And then just walked him down with a smile.
Or Floyd was cautious for 2 rounds for no justifiable reason and then took another 8 long rounds to beat someone who has never boxed professionally before in his life.
He was coming off a long lay off and he is 40 years old
Plus he had no footage of Conor as a Boxer to study in preparation
So he didn't know what Conor was going to do in there.
He took his time and felt him out which was smart
No need to rush when he's got 12 rounds to do the job.
Or an man of Floyd's vast experience should have worked out that Conor had nothing and should have stepped it up earlier and stopped the cage fighter who looked embarrassingly amateurish.
That's not his style though
Why change a style that's worked for the past 49 fights?
Conor was 12 years younger and naturally a lot larger.
If Conor fought somebody his own size and age (Canelo)
He'd have got knocked out early but he picked a 40 year old
Floyd picked Conor and they set this "sting" up a year ago.
I think Conor called out Floyd whilst Mayweather was retired
Floyd saw an opportunity to make easy money and took it.
Floyd was always going to come out of "retirement" for the 50th fight and it should have been against a real boxer. In fact that should not even count as 50. That was a glorified sparring match.
I didn't think it was all that bad and if I had to choose
I'd rather watch that again over the Pacquiao fight.
Floyd got to go to 50-0, make a ton of money
And he did it without taking a risk! That's just good business.
I don't mind if the MMA and Irish fans want to add to his retirement fund.
The Manny Pac fight was a stinker and the $100 to watch it was a kick in the balls.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
Only because Master was silly enough to believe Pac could win. Those of us that knew what would happen saw the counter right in the first and said, it's over, Pac will slow down now.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
If somebody offered me hundreds of millions of pounds to come out of retirement (where I'd been keeping fit anyway) to fight somebody who couldn't hurt me, couldn't make me look bad, had absolutely zero chance of winning and who could do most of the talking and hyping of the 'fight' .... I'd take it.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
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Only because Master was silly enough to believe Pac could win. Those of us that knew what would happen saw the counter right in the first and said, it's over, Pac will slow down now.
I knew Manny would never win especially after he got knocked out so cleanly by JMM. 5 years too late was my issue.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
I only watched the highlights but I was surprised how little power macgregor could get on his shots, even the uppercut he landed early on where was in a great position to hurt floyd it just made mayweather blink a bit :S, I don't think macgregor has much of a chance in pro boxing unless he takes on much smaller guys or guys who are totally finished(aka mallignaggi:S)...
Who cares about this event anyway, if you find this stuff fun(the pre fight nonsense) fun then you certainly got your moneys worth, although I don't think mayweather has ever been that great at trash talking but somehow people still fall for his act and hype him up.. And it was a 40 year old retired guy fighting a mma champ for no title belts for a "record" of getting to 50-0, which I am not sure why this is an amazing record but whatever(julio cesar chavez won his first 80 something fights), I dont get all the weird hate for this fight, it didnt interest me that much so only watched some of it on youtube afterwards.. Cotto giving the japanese fellow brain damage wasnt much more of a contest either.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
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I only watched the highlights but I was surprised how little power macgregor could get on his shots, even the uppercut he landed early on where was in a great position to hurt floyd it just made mayweather blink a bit :S, I don't think macgregor has much of a chance in pro boxing unless he takes on much smaller guys or guys who are totally finished(aka mallignaggi:S)...
Who cares about this event anyway, if you find this stuff fun(the pre fight nonsense) fun then you certainly got your moneys worth, although I don't think mayweather has ever been that great at trash talking but somehow people still fall for his act and hype him up.. And it was a 40 year old retired guy fighting a mma champ for no title belts for a "record" of getting to 50-0, which I am not sure why this is an amazing record but whatever(julio cesar chavez won his first 80 something fights), I dont get all the weird hate for this fight, it didnt interest me that much so only watched some of it on youtube afterwards.. Cotto giving the japanese fellow brain damage wasnt much more of a contest either.
At least the Cotto fight was free to HBO subscribers.
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With a certain degree of shame, I must admit I have just watched the fight for free on YouTube.
Mayweather was utterly contemptuous of McGregor and just walked him down and battered him to a deserved stoppage. I thought McGregor was absolutely shit ..... terrible technique with powerless arm punches, confusion and ineptitude in the clinches and no tactical plan at all.
Mayweather was fit, fitter than McGregor which is a good achievement for a 40 year old with two years of inactivity behind him. His timing was really off and we didn't see that lightning fast straight right lead (one of the best weapons in boxing history), we didn't see any movement or ringcraft really. His composure under pressure was, as always, superb .... but being hit by Conor wasn't like being hit by a professional boxer. There was a big big difference in punch power between them both, and Floyd isn't a big puncher.
Floyd won by having a gameplan of making Connor be active for the full three minutes of each round (he never took a step back from the break, he was constantly standing right in front of McGregor and he made Connor lead off all the time). In the clinches, he either turned his back on McGregor, conning the ref into thinking he was being fouled, or he stuck his elbow right in McGregors face). He just ground him down and then battered him.
The only way McGregor could have won that fight was if Fan Man had parasailed into the ring and shot Floyd in the head.
McGregor is really a middleweight or super middle sized guy. Golovkin or Badou Jack would have genuinely killed this guy in the ring,
The most annoying thing was the commentators. I don't know who they all were, but one of them was Paulie Malignaggi. They were completely biased in their commentary, saying how great Conor was doing (when he was achieving fuck all) and bigging him up hugely.
Commentators are supposed to be giving expert unbiased analysis that you may not have noticed ..... not being complicit in a criminal con!
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
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GaMo
Floyd is usually defensive and he's always safety first
But against Conor he just did not give a FUCK!
He showed Conor no respect and just walked in on him.
He found out McGregor's power was a myth
And then just walked him down with a smile.
there are two things floyd figured out pretty early. mcgregor was leaving a very long southpaw jab out. what that does is fill up the space where you can throw your jab. so you dont get room to extend your jab out. floyd was not going to jab with or out jab mcgregor. not this way. and he was trying to steal his right hand from way out. mcgregor was seeing it coming and slipping it.
so what he decided to do was to get squared up and get his hands up. forget trying to out jab the guy. just get your hands up and walk through the jab. then get yourself closer so you can steal your right hand from up closer. that way mcgregor doesnt see it coming from way out. he gets it from up close so he doesnt have as much time to react to it.
mcgregor had no answer. well, but to get hit with a lot of right hands and to throw a lot of punches at floyd arms and gloves, that is. i guess that would take about 10 rounds, as hard as floyd punches.
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Have to admit watched the full fight on Showtime this weekend. I kept waiting for these nip and tuck rounds the cable shows and a few elsewhere kept mentioning while it was live. I made it a point to stay out of the knuckle dragging keyboard wars on FB that sprang up right after that slammed the stoppage and Mayweather in general, mainly from many friends who follow mma. Being honest Floyd was in complete control, he wasn't 'forced' to find a way to win he simply executed a common sense game plan set well in advance. After 3, 4th it was his show to end and I don't ever remember seeing Mayweather walk straight in one punch at a time and standing his ground. He set the hook, towed him out to the deep end helped him collapse on his dead legs and depleted lungs. I don't think Floyd is as done, slowed as some said though I certainly would like him to stay on the shelf. Conor was class in extended interviews also.
Shit I cannot believe kept this floating with more posting ;D:-X
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Everyone says Conor is a nice guy and did well to sell the fight but he was piss poor and should be embarrassed with his performance.
Floyd was laughing inside at how rubbish technically Conor from the first round.
Conor was shit and he should retire to Ireland and never fight again. He has shamed his MMA/UFC sport and they should all ban him from the sport.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
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With a certain degree of shame, I must admit I have just watched the fight for free on YouTube.
Mayweather was utterly contemptuous of McGregor and just walked him down and battered him to a deserved stoppage. I thought McGregor was absolutely shit ..... terrible technique with powerless arm punches, confusion and ineptitude in the clinches and no tactical plan at all.
Mayweather was fit, fitter than McGregor which is a good achievement for a 40 year old with two years of inactivity behind him. His timing was really off and we didn't see that lightning fast straight right lead (one of the best weapons in boxing history), we didn't see any movement or ringcraft really. His composure under pressure was, as always, superb .... but being hit by Conor wasn't like being hit by a professional boxer. There was a big big difference in punch power between them both, and Floyd isn't a big puncher.
Floyd won by having a gameplan of making Connor be active for the full three minutes of each round (he never took a step back from the break, he was constantly standing right in front of McGregor and he made Connor lead off all the time). In the clinches, he either turned his back on McGregor, conning the ref into thinking he was being fouled, or he stuck his elbow right in McGregors face). He just ground him down and then battered him.
The only way McGregor could have won that fight was if Fan Man had parasailed into the ring and shot Floyd in the head.
McGregor is really a middleweight or super middle sized guy. Golovkin or Badou Jack would have genuinely killed this guy in the ring,
The most annoying thing was the commentators. I don't know who they all were, but one of them was Paulie Malignaggi. They were completely biased in their commentary, saying how great Conor was doing (when he was achieving fuck all) and bigging him up hugely.
Commentators are supposed to be giving expert unbiased analysis that you may not have noticed ..... not being complicit in a criminal con!
Good post (although I’m not keen on the blue colouring)
The American commentary was terrible for this fight
I couldn’t believe how biased it was for the non-American fighter
Might as well of had MMA fans from Ireland calling the fight.
I’ve always preferred HBO over Showtime so it’s no surprise
But it’s still wrong especially when what they’re saying about the fight
Doesn’t match up to the reality of what was going in the ring.
Re: One Last Floyd v Gregory Thread
Gate numbers are reportedly in for Floyd Mayweather vs. Conor McGregor, and while the final total is enormous, it’s not a record-breaker.
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor was billed as having the potential to break both the gate and pay-per-view revenue records previously set by Mayweather’s May 2015 win over Manny Pacquiao. While pay-per-view buys are trending in the general direction of the 4.6 million buys (North America only) for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, the live gate apparently wasn’t close.
Jed I. Goodman received the gross gate and ticket sales information from the Nevada Athletic Commission on Tuesday.
$55.4 million is well off from the $72,198,500 for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, and definitely nowhere near the claims made by Dana White that the gate was at $70 million just a couple of days prior to the mega-fight. Post-fight, Mayweather was qouted as saying it'd eclipse $80 million. In the lead-up to the bout, one of the storylines was the slow-moving ticket sales, unsurprisingly caused by the outrageously expensive pricing of the seats at the T-Mobile Arena. There were plenty of empty seats even for the main event.
Make no mistake about it though, this is still the second-largest gate of all-time by a considerable distance. It’s more than triple the best live gate in UFC history, UFC 205: Alvarez vs. McGregor, and $35 million higher than Mayweather vs. Canelo Alvarez in 2013. When all is said and done, Mayweather will hold the top four gates in the history of Nevada boxing events, although that may by short-lived if Gennady Golovkin vs. Canelo Alvarez manages to break $30 million.
As for McGregor, he has the distinct honor of headlining the biggest-selling UFC pay-per-view of all-time (the UFC 202 rematch with Nate Diaz), four of the five top gates in Nevada, the number one gate in UFC history, and now the number two gate in boxing history. Not too shabby, if you ask me.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxin...cid=spartanntp
