Re: If you trained AJ..or Wilder?
I agree with those that said AJ,s defense is a little lacking. I think he has the tools, but its the execution that's a little slow rolling. Watching his fight. I see.. that he either stays out of range looking for a shot to counter or shuffling in with his hands high looking to maul you with combos. It's not a bad plan of action as you don't have many fleet footed heavyweights that would slip out and use angles on you. Still if he was stronger and pivoting, using defense to set up offense, and setting traps, he would do himself the favor of creating opportunities and conserving his energy to preserve his stamina. A good fighter know hows to attack and how to defend. A better fighter also knows when....
As for wilder, They need to fix his feet. Yes hes long and athletic. But ever notice how with the exception of that straight right hand, his length tends to get in his way and makes him awkward. A pet peeve of mine has always been tall fighters that fought short (Corrales, Paul Williams) . Their exciting but the physics of the situation is working against them every time. If you're tall and you're hook happy, your just opening every window of opportunity in the house. A guy with a side step that covers more ground than most opponents reach should be a Ghost by the time the punches are coming in. Plus the benefit of having a reach that would allow you to throw counters after those misses should be golden. But his legs get tangled up so he turns his back sometimes and runs away to retreat. His hooks wind up as slapping door knockers at times. His stance is too wide on his punches and leaves him in awkward positions to defend from. He sometimes forgets the difference between a swing and a punch. For wilder, hes been doing these things for so long without being corrected that fixing them now would take time and discipline that i'm afraid, he doesn't have because hes too busy trying to build his brand.
Re: If you trained AJ..or Wilder?
If the question is who would I'd rather train, the slam-dunk answer for me is AJ. Wilder is a bigger project for any trainer. Too many things to fix, which may or may not be fixable. I like Wilder, don't get me wrong, but he's gotten away with a lot of things because of his strength and athleticism. To those who like a blank canvas to work with, Wilder would be a formidable project, mainly because he's got so many pro fights under his belt. What's the saying... it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks?
AJ is another story. Not saying he's the complete package yet... but let's not forget he just finished knocking out a very determined, FINALLY offensive-minded Wladimir. Plus... he survived a knockdown by Wlad to do it. At this point I think AJ is at a much superior technical place than Wilder.
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After his recent weigh in AJ may have to work on the weight and extra muscle. All the outside interference can't help much either.
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If the question is who would I'd rather train, the slam-dunk answer for me is AJ. Wilder is a bigger project for any trainer. Too many things to fix, which may or may not be fixable. I like Wilder, don't get me wrong, but he's gotten away with a lot of things because of his strength and athleticism. To those who like a blank canvas to work with, Wilder would be a formidable project, mainly because he's got so many pro fights under his belt. What's the saying... it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks?
AJ is another story. Not saying he's the complete package yet... but let's not forget he just finished knocking out a very determined, FINALLY offensive-minded Wladimir. Plus... he survived a knockdown by Wlad to do it. At this point I think AJ is at a much superior technical place than Wilder.
AJ is as complete a package as anyone else right now.
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I would want to train Wilder.
As someone already said, he is more of a blank canvas and you could mound his style to be something truly unique.
Joshua is already down the route of technical orthodoxy. He has quick hands and power, but he does lumber a bit and he was known in the amateurs for being a bit chinny
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I would want to train Wilder.
As someone already said, he is more of a blank canvas and you could mound his style to be something truly unique.
Joshua is already down the route of technical orthodoxy. He has quick hands and power, but he does lumber a bit and he was known in the amateurs for being a bit chinny
Wilder is not a blank canvas, if he was he would have improved his boxing skills by now. Some of the punches he throws would not be out of place outside a club on Saturday night.
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What is the best weight for AJ stamina..?
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What is the best weight for AJ stamina..?
The weight he came in against Wlad.
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Too much muscle imo.
He needs to really get behind that jab and make stamina and slickness his priority.
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What is the best weight for AJ stamina..?
The weight he came in against Wlad.
No, Lighter. He was too heavy against Wlad. 17 stone to 17 stone 3lbs is the weight he should be.
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What is the best weight for AJ stamina..?
The weight he came in against Wlad.
No, Lighter. He was too heavy against Wlad. 17 stone to 17 stone 3lbs is the weight he should be.
AJ looked a right fat cunt didn't he, he needs to lay off that Nandos black card that he's got the tubby fucker
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What is the best weight for AJ stamina..?
The weight he came in against Wlad.
No, Lighter. He was too heavy against Wlad. 17 stone to 17 stone 3lbs is the weight he should be.
AJ looked a right fat cunt didn't he, he needs to lay off that Nandos black card that he's got the tubby fucker
When you are facing someone not as dangerous as Wlad you can easily take short cuts in training. I think that showed in his weight and performance.
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What is the best weight for AJ stamina..?
The weight he came in against Wlad.
No, Lighter. He was too heavy against Wlad. 17 stone to 17 stone 3lbs is the weight he should be.
AJ looked a right fat cunt didn't he, he needs to lay off that Nandos black card that he's got the tubby fucker
When you are facing someone not as dangerous as Wlad you can easily take short cuts in training. I think that showed in his weight and performance.
AJ needs x3 fights next year.
The last one being Wilder.
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What is the best weight for AJ stamina..?
The weight he came in against Wlad.
No, Lighter. He was too heavy against Wlad. 17 stone to 17 stone 3lbs is the weight he should be.
AJ looked a right fat cunt didn't he, he needs to lay off that Nandos black card that he's got the tubby fucker
When you are facing someone not as dangerous as Wlad you can easily take short cuts in training. I think that showed in his weight and performance.
AJ needs x3 fights next year.
The last one being Wilder.
That is what Eddie wanted but in the summer. So Parker early 2018,then Wilder then mandatory.
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After that mediocre performance last night by Anthony Joshua I am certain that Deontay Wilder will bomb him out of there in about 4 or 5 round stops. Joshua is all hat and no cattle.
