Joshua Shamelessly Ducks Wilder. Refuses to give him 50%. Disgrace.

AJ is the draw and becoming very well known to the American audience from what I see. For a guy who's had his last 2,3 ? 'mega fights' fall apart and is now lined up to face guys AJ knocked out a year + ago Wilder should be offering whatever it takes to force AJ into a showdown, not setting up fake loopholes to fight another stool warmer. Not saying he should take a suckers cut but for as confident as he is with his Tyson like *spit take* one hit bricks he can consider it an investment.

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AJ is the draw and becoming very well known to the American audience from what I see. For a guy who's had his last 2,3 ? 'mega fights' fall apart and is now lined up to face guys AJ knocked out a year + ago Wilder should be offering whatever it takes to force AJ into a showdown, not setting up fake loopholes to fight another stool warmer. Not saying he should take a suckers cut but for as confident as he is with his Tyson like *spit take* one hit bricks he can consider it an investment.

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Wilder knows this could be his last big fight at the top and wants to get properly compensated for the loss. It is not an investment but a pension.

With Ortiz and Povtekin back in the mix Wilders time may be running out. He wants that money before they catch up with him.

Wladimir gave 50/50 splits to hate and ibragimov to make sure the unification fights happened, not completely relevant but wotever......

AJ definitely deserves more and a fair share more but I don’t understand those saying he is getting a following in the USA. He could get a following if he made the big fights, but he doesn’t currently have one, his numbers have been terrible.

Parker’s team says they offered 65 to AJ and a rematch clause for him and they wouldn’t take that either. Which, good, nobody cares about Parker, but it shows Wilder isn’t the only one struggling to come to terms with AJs people.

50/50 doesn’t work, what is the counter offer? If you don’t hear the counter offer someone is being sneaky. I’m genuinely asking, what is the counter offer? I haven’t heard one

Wilder doesn't want AJ he just made that fairly clear putting on a stage show with Ortiz. Network has all but made that fight just now ;D. Does a Ortiz win still boost his cut demand.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

AJ definitely deserves more and a fair share more but I don’t understand those saying he is getting a following in the USA. He could get a following if he made the big fights, but he doesn’t currently have one, his numbers have been terrible.

Parker’s team says they offered 65 to AJ and a rematch clause for him and they wouldn’t take that either. Which, good, nobody cares about Parker, but it shows Wilder isn’t the only one struggling to come to terms with AJs people.

50/50 doesn’t work, what is the counter offer? If you don’t hear the counter offer someone is being sneaky. I’m genuinely asking, what is the counter offer? I haven’t heard one

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"Counter offer" is the key. AJ's team can offer what they want . There will be no counter offer.
You say Parker's team offered 65 to AJ? That's wrong . They actually offered to TAKE 35%. There is a massive difference.
Parker and Wilder's teams either don't have the financial muscle or cannot justify the investment .
So the only people putting money up is on AJ's side. And they won't be told how to spend their dough.

I fear this will be Riddick Bowe V Lennox Lewis all over again.

The two fighters' camps will fart about, whining about percentages & paydays etc, instead of just making arguably the hottest fight in the sport right now, meanwhile, one of both of them will probably get derailed along the way & if they do fight, no one will give a damn, or much like Bowe/Lewis, never fight at all, then spend the next twenty five years blaming each other for the fight not happening.

The more I think about it, the more I think it should be 50/50 but should be fought in Britain. Equal share but since AJ is the bigger draw he gets hometown advantage.

Looks like Wilder will fight Ortiz next. Pretty happy with this. If he wins that at least its a genuine fighter on his rec and will strengthen his case for an even money fight with AJ. Until then, if I was AJ I wouldnt accept less than 70%.

Wilder and his team are completely missing the bigger picture.
If AJ beats Parker next then he'll hold 3 belts to Wilders 1 instead of 2 v 1.
That's only gonna strengthen AJ and Hearns hand in any future negotiation.
AJ is box office Wilder isn't and has been badly promoted to the point where the man on the street doesn't even know who he is.
Pretty sure the USA have not had many unknown Heavyweight champions in the past.
If Wilders as good as he thinks he shouldn't hesitate but I'm actually with Swanson on this one and would love to know what exactly Hearn did offer him.
If a 60-40 split in AJs favour was on offer then I'd say it's Wilder doing the ducking.
Hope this gets made in 2018 while both fighters are in their prime.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

"It will be 50-50 or else we don't see a fight."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/g...medium=twitter


Some people try and blame Wilder by pointing out his biggest purse is 5% of Joshua's and has only one belt and is less famous. But that shit ain't the truth. If Joshua was true champion why ain't he fought in America yet? Scared. Just as Wilder says. True champion would give Wilder the money he demands. Fact.

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How is Wilder less popular than Joshua?
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Originally Posted by Fenster

"It will be 50-50 or else we don't see a fight."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/g...medium=twitter


Some people try and blame Wilder by pointing out his biggest purse is 5% of Joshua's and has only one belt and is less famous. But that shit ain't the truth. If Joshua was true champion why ain't he fought in America yet? Scared. Just as Wilder says. True champion would give Wilder the money he demands. Fact.

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How is Wilder less popular than Joshua?
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Have you seen the stadiums that AJ fills?

It's not about the stadiums.

Exactly, it is not about the stadiums. In the 1700's the main source of entertainment was public hanging. An English crowd will watch anything as evidenced by Amir Kan allegedly frolicking in a jungle here in the 21st century. It is just gentlemanly to share the plunder.