Mike Tyson NEVER got up from a knockdown to win....

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

I agree with the point that by the time Tyson ever went down, he was exhausted and had accumulated a significant amount of punishment. Mike definitely had a solid chin, as evidenced by some of the bombs he took from Ruddock, Lewis...etc. I consider Evander the greater fighter (both p4p and at heavyweight), but Mike was more consistent prior to the Douglas fight in my opinion. I place his being the youngest to win the title and clean out the division as equal to rising from a knockdown to win.

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I still maintain Tyson at 21 was good enough to beat any form of Holyfield the Douglas version or the bigger version that beat a faded Tyson.

Tyson great but he simple was not put in the situation enough for me to say he could never come back from it. Holyfeild had to come back all the time definition of fighter showing that heart and chin can win over power and size.

Also when people bring up fighters who where scary Tyson is brought up which he should be because he was a crazy thug who had amazing speed and power. That being said always thought Holyfeild was even worse because his self belief in himself was fucking insane not only that thought god empowered him to fuck people up. Go watch his interview after Tyson win all Holyfeild said was god was the reason i mean for everything that happen said god 100 fucking times its insane.

That is the very definition of inspired, delusional and crazy - Evander real deal Holyfield.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

I agree with the point that by the time Tyson ever went down, he was exhausted and had accumulated a significant amount of punishment. Mike definitely had a solid chin, as evidenced by some of the bombs he took from Ruddock, Lewis...etc. I consider Evander the greater fighter (both p4p and at heavyweight), but Mike was more consistent prior to the Douglas fight in my opinion. I place his being the youngest to win the title and clean out the division as equal to rising from a knockdown to win.

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I still maintain Tyson at 21 was good enough to beat any form of Holyfield the Douglas version or the bigger version that beat a faded Tyson.

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We will have to agree to disagree on Holyfield. Evander had his number and would always get “up” for a Tyson fight. Horrible style match up for Mike.

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

I agree with the point that by the time Tyson ever went down, he was exhausted and had accumulated a significant amount of punishment. Mike definitely had a solid chin, as evidenced by some of the bombs he took from Ruddock, Lewis...etc. I consider Evander the greater fighter (both p4p and at heavyweight), but Mike was more consistent prior to the Douglas fight in my opinion. I place his being the youngest to win the title and clean out the division as equal to rising from a knockdown to win.

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I still maintain Tyson at 21 was good enough to beat any form of Holyfield the Douglas version or the bigger version that beat a faded Tyson.

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We will have to agree to disagree on Holyfield. Evander had his number and would always get “up” for a Tyson fight. Horrible style match up for Mike.

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Remember first 5 rounds Tyson against Holyfield were Mike's. Tyson was gassed out and a peak version would carry on the full 12. I distinctly remember round 5 where Tyson gave his last onslaught he hurt Evander to the body. Peak Tyson loved to brutalise the body.

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

I agree with the point that by the time Tyson ever went down, he was exhausted and had accumulated a significant amount of punishment. Mike definitely had a solid chin, as evidenced by some of the bombs he took from Ruddock, Lewis...etc. I consider Evander the greater fighter (both p4p and at heavyweight), but Mike was more consistent prior to the Douglas fight in my opinion. I place his being the youngest to win the title and clean out the division as equal to rising from a knockdown to win.

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I still maintain Tyson at 21 was good enough to beat any form of Holyfield the Douglas version or the bigger version that beat a faded Tyson.

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We will have to agree to disagree on Holyfield. Evander had his number and would always get “up” for a Tyson fight. Horrible style match up for Mike.

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Remember first 5 rounds Tyson against Holyfield were Mike's. Tyson was gassed out and a peak version would carry on the full 12. I distinctly remember round 5 where Tyson gave his last onslaught he hurt Evander to the body. Peak Tyson loved to brutalise the body.

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Making pretzel memories over here ;D. Same what if about versions holds true for Holyfield no? He was labeled a walking dead man leading into fight with Mike.. truth is he was taking his shots and standing Mike still with own counters by mid point of 1st, buzzed him in 2nd. The 5th only stands out imo because it was Mikes strongest.

and for the Mike never cleanly down talk ;D..that left upperhook counter was flush on Tysons chin.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

I agree with the point that by the time Tyson ever went down, he was exhausted and had accumulated a significant amount of punishment. Mike definitely had a solid chin, as evidenced by some of the bombs he took from Ruddock, Lewis...etc. I consider Evander the greater fighter (both p4p and at heavyweight), but Mike was more consistent prior to the Douglas fight in my opinion. I place his being the youngest to win the title and clean out the division as equal to rising from a knockdown to win.

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I still maintain Tyson at 21 was good enough to beat any form of Holyfield the Douglas version or the bigger version that beat a faded Tyson.

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We will have to agree to disagree on Holyfield. Evander had his number and would always get “up” for a Tyson fight. Horrible style match up for Mike.

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Remember first 5 rounds Tyson against Holyfield were Mike's. Tyson was gassed out and a peak version would carry on the full 12. I distinctly remember round 5 where Tyson gave his last onslaught he hurt Evander to the body. Peak Tyson loved to brutalise the body.

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Making pretzel memories over here ;D. Same what if about versions holds true for Holyfield no? He was labeled a walking dead man leading into fight with Mike.. truth is he was taking his shots and standing Mike still with own counters by mid point of 1st, buzzed him in 2nd. The 5th only stands out imo because it was Mikes strongest.

and for the Mike never cleanly down talk ;D..that left upperhook counter was flush on Tysons chin.

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True I am going on rose tinted memory but Tyson was winning and could have sustained the attacks at his peak.

Also that knockdown was a punch to the chest not chin.

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Originally Posted by mikeeod

I agree with the point that by the time Tyson ever went down, he was exhausted and had accumulated a significant amount of punishment. Mike definitely had a solid chin, as evidenced by some of the bombs he took from Ruddock, Lewis...etc. I consider Evander the greater fighter (both p4p and at heavyweight), but Mike was more consistent prior to the Douglas fight in my opinion. I place his being the youngest to win the title and clean out the division as equal to rising from a knockdown to win.

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I don't think anyone will ever break Tyson's record as the youngest fighter to ever win the title and/or unify the title. Heavyweight that is.

Not to mention this is Heavyweight we are talking about a weight class were you can get fucked at any moment. Regardless of how good your chin is a 220 plus guy getting good hit on you is lights out most of the time.