Roger Waters: "Neoliberal propaganda keeping voters ‘asleep’ like Orwellian sheep"

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

When he rants like that he is not worthy of a meaningful response An ultra conservative does not believe in redistributive taxation or nationalised utilities. Like I say he needs to get to the chemist and pick up his seroquel and get some laxatives to go along with it. Mental.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

When he rants like that he is not worthy of a meaningful response An ultra conservative does not believe in redistributive taxation or nationalised utilities. Like I say he needs to get to the chemist and pick up his seroquel and get some laxatives to go along with it. Mental.

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Gaslighting is not really going to work young man. What is strange is that somebody who used to tell us all he was bi-polar and actually using those drugs seems to think suggesting I take an anti-psychotic is a replacement for engaging with the subject of the thread. I though you liked Orwell or is that only as a tool to ridicule and mock the masses with? The Wall that Waters is most famous for is alive and well and here you are trying to erect it between your cabal and the rest of the forum.

He is correct you are "asleep..anaesthetised" I think maybe living South Korea has made you " uncomfortable....to see anything real."

When in the article it says

For Waters the root of this antipathy, in the US at least, lies in part from its poorly funded public education system. In Waters’ view the reason for this lies in the political establishment’s desire to keep an ignorant and compliant population.

“They want to keep the electorate ignorant, and mindless, and unthinking, and malleable, and pliable, and very open to the use of consumerism and propaganda to keep them under control, to maintain the Orwellian notion of the sheep and whatever.”


That is what Trump is doing with his twitter nonsense and carefully managed opposition. It is what InfoWars is bragging about and yet you are lapping it up thinking you are more woke than the everyday fella here on the forum who can see right thru it. You are willingly giving up personal control and signing up to the idea of sides against each other.

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Originally Posted by walrus

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

When he rants like that he is not worthy of a meaningful response An ultra conservative does not believe in redistributive taxation or nationalised utilities. Like I say he needs to get to the chemist and pick up his seroquel and get some laxatives to go along with it. Mental.

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Walrus Truce does not mean having to agree with you and your obsession with diagnosing anyone who does not agree with you with mental health problems or having to high five big Pharma.

What on earth are you going on about? See, you keep ranting like a madman and accusing people of things they are not. If you really cannot see the political differences or differentiate between different people then you are clearly beyond help. I happen to agree with Roger Waters on a lot of things too. Seriously, calm the fuck down you strange, strange man.

Like I said to Walrus you are a waste of energy with your contusions and things that exist only in your head. It's not me calling out half the forum as 'ultra conservatives' and being pathologically obsessed with attacking Peterson and comparing everyone to him.

Forgive me for being rude but I suggest at least 700 miligrams of Seroquel and a long time in the loo after those laxatives. Now bugger off and leave everyone alone.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf

What on earth are you going on about? See, you keep ranting like a madman and accusing people of things they are not. If you really cannot see the political differences or differentiate between different people then you are clearly beyond help. I happen to agree with Roger Waters on a lot of things too. Seriously, calm the fuck down you strange, strange man.

Like I said to Walrus you are a waste of energy with your contusions and things that exist only in your head. It's not me calling out half the forum as 'ultra conservatives' and being pathologically obsessed with attacking Peterson and comparing everyone to him.

Forgive me for being rude but I suggest at least 700 miligrams of Seroquel and a long time in the loo after those laxatives. Now bugger off and leave everyone alone.

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I would like to report I took exlax two nights ago and woke up in agony in my tummy

Oreos + Slimjims will do that

If his opinion was worth a damn, he would’ve sooner killed himself than release the noise he did.

I expect this is some kind of stoning offence like John Cleese saying "Jehovah' in The Life of Brian, but I will risk reposting the actual words of the guy himself from the linked to article

" Because they’re asleep. Because they’re the victims of the neoliberalism that Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher brought to the world,” Waters said."

I have zero issue with you, and the last thing I’ll do is take a side in the endless quibble you have with a few guys here; but, do you think individual politicians are ever solely responsible for mass movements, or that a musicians opinions on them is worth much?

The cultural Marxist takeover of the Western World which started I'm going to say and real significant full force in the late 1980s has been powered and manufactured and brain child by groups of educators and policymakers beginning in the 1960s. Political correctness has completely handcuffed people in their free speech and demonises people to be Nazis or fascist or racist or xenophobes or misogynist

Ronald Reagan had nothing to do with that

Roger waters also said if it were not for the Beatles there never would have been Pink Floyd

I never really got into Pink Floyd. Very good musicians, but you can tell Waters studied architecture. The music is well constructed, but lacks melody or true emotion. I find Dark Side of the Moon to be a very dull album.

Smoked 2 joints, age 16, sitting on curb hot summer night, 9 p.m., August 1980, 3 friends, boom box, smoked 2 joints, it was Hawaiian reefer, sitting in the darkness in suburbia, stoned bad, .....guy pops in a cassette..... So stoned, everything quiet as a mouse, we light a 3rd joint, Mike says "Steve, this weed is Acapulco Gold",....... Stoned even more..... Pure silence, darkness......
Roger hits the play button.......

Faintly, so faintly, at the edge of hearing, you hear strings, so faint.... Slowly, so slowly, crescendoing...... Strings, ...... Louder, drawn out, approaching, crescendoing......

Fucking mouths hanging open in amazement, mind-blowing.....

Stoned as all hell......

Then it hit:. SHINE ON YOU CRAZY DIAMOND

*****ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY AN EPIPHANY

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I have zero issue with you, and the last thing I’ll do is take a side in the endless quibble you have with a few guys here; but, do you think individual politicians are ever solely responsible for mass movements, or that a musicians opinions on them is worth much?

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No. That said Thatcherism definitely changed this country and people's attitude massively. Her saying 'there is no such thing as society' seemed to coincide with yuppies, the 80s obsession with ostentatious displays of wealth and her stamping down the unions and killing the coal industry etc. So to pretend that Waters talking about her and Reagan, which is exactly what he Says, is somehow about political correctness etc is an inversion of reality. Neoliberalism is literally the opposite of socialism. Thatcher started the rush to privatise publicly held utilities. Everything getting reduced down to a financial transaction got us here. Trump is a neoliberalist, so is Peterson and Thatcher and Reagan started it all - https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...george-monbiot

So please explain who started Political correctness