Re: This fight shows how good Tszyu really was...
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
All respect to Kostya...not dissing the man at all...but Floyd is a whole different ball game.
But either way you look at it...Judah was open...Kostya came through...end of story.
I don't know Wacko... Tszyu changed the tide of the battle the entire second round... He was responding to everything Judah threw... I think some of that was Judah was showing Tszyu's power too much respect... and rightfully so, but like IN Floyd's case sometimes showing something too much respect often makes it worse.
Re: This fight shows how good Tszyu really was...
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
All respect to Kostya...not dissing the man at all...but Floyd is a whole different ball game.
But either way you look at it...Judah was open...Kostya came through...end of story.
I don't know Wacko...
Tszyu changed the tide of the battle the entire second round... He was responding to everything Judah threw... I think some of that was Judah was showing Tszyu's power too much respect... and rightfully so, but like IN Floyd's case sometimes showing something too much respect often makes it worse.
The fight was so short you can't really judge anything that happened. Not taking anything away from KT.
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You who say Zab is a bum says Kostya is great because he knocked ZAB out and Floyd couldn't? You must think a lot higher of Zab then you think.
Re: This fight shows how good Tszyu really was...
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Originally Posted by Starr
You who say Zab is a bum says Kostya is great because he knocked ZAB out and Floyd couldn't? You must think a lot higher of Zab then you think.
Zab is a bum for how he acts... I'm not saying he's great because he ko'ed Zab when Floyd couldn't... I am saying he had Zab's style figured out in a one round, and Floyd couldn't figure it out in one round... I'll admit I thought Zab was less skilled than he showed, but I still believe that he is one step below the ATG's in terms of skill if not ability.
Re: This fight shows how good Tszyu really was...
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Originally Posted by Starr
You who say Zab is a bum says Kostya is great because he knocked ZAB out and Floyd couldn't? You must think a lot higher of Zab then you think.
I think allot of Zab the boxer but I still think he's a punk ass.
Thanks for the pic! :drool:
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Starr
You who say Zab is a bum says Kostya is great because he knocked ZAB out and Floyd couldn't? You must think a lot higher of Zab then you think.
Zab is a bum for how he acts... I'm not saying he's great because he ko'ed Zab when Floyd couldn't... I am saying he had Zab's style figured out in a one round, and Floyd couldn't figure it out in one round... I'll admit I thought Zab was less skilled than he showed, but I still believe that he is one step below the ATG's in terms of skill if not ability.
:cooclick: Taeth
Starr...when I say that he's a bum...I mean that he is a bum by the way he presents himself.
He's an idiot. He's a gifted fighter...but he's a gotdam moron when it comes to his composure.
Re: This fight shows how good Tszyu really was...
Thinking over the Zab-Tyzsu fight, i think Tyszu was just measuring Zab in the first round by showing him respect.....Zab started quickly and tagged Tyzsu a few times.
In the second round Zab may of been more hesitant because he wasn't the same whirlwind he was in the first, Tyszu was not going to be knocked out with 1 punch and certainly wasn't going anywhere.
I think Tyzsu might of imposed his will and his punching power in the mid-stages of the second round, and was certainly closing the distance..
Judah was caught flush with his hands down and got knocked out, very short fight indeed.
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tszyu has any southpaw style figured out because he is great with his right hand. But Zab getting knocked out by Tszyu and hurt by Baldomir made it tough on Floyd because Zab LOOKED for Floyd's right all night. Because Mayweather landed more lefts then rights.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Starr
You who say Zab is a bum says Kostya is great because he knocked ZAB out and Floyd couldn't? You must think a lot higher of Zab then you think.
Zab is a bum for how he acts... I'm not saying he's great because he ko'ed Zab when Floyd couldn't... I am saying he had Zab's style figured out in a one round, and Floyd couldn't figure it out in one round... I'll admit I thought Zab was less skilled than he showed, but I still believe that he is one step below the ATG's in terms of skill if not ability.
:cooclick: Taeth
Starr...when I say that he's a bum...I mean that he is a bum by the way he presents himself.
He's an idiot. He's a gifted fighter...but he's a gotdam moron when it comes to his composure.
Wacko, like I said we see it through different eyes. If I mention William Bo James and Bernard Hopkins things will go quiet. But I wouldn't have an opinion on Hopkins because of it. I will never call a fighter a bum, especially if I never met him. And I find it hard to believe that Zab is a black eye for boxing, there have been far worst incidents.
and besides the Nady incident, his hit on Baldomir which is interpeted many ways by Zab haters and detracters and this low blow of Floyd and riot INSTIGATED by Roger Mayweather. You can't name anything else about Zab.
Re: This fight shows how good Tszyu really was...
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Originally Posted by Starr
tszyu has any southpaw style figured out because he is great with his right hand. But Zab getting knocked out by Tszyu and hurt by Baldomir made it tough on Floyd because Zab LOOKED for Floyd's right all night. Because Mayweather landed more lefts then rights.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Starr
You who say Zab is a bum says Kostya is great because he knocked ZAB out and Floyd couldn't? You must think a lot higher of Zab then you think.
Zab is a bum for how he acts... I'm not saying he's great because he ko'ed Zab when Floyd couldn't... I am saying he had Zab's style figured out in a one round, and Floyd couldn't figure it out in one round... I'll admit I thought Zab was less skilled than he showed, but I still believe that he is one step below the ATG's in terms of skill if not ability.
:cooclick: Taeth
Starr...when I say that he's a bum...I mean that he is a bum by the way he presents himself.
He's an idiot. He's a gifted fighter...but he's a gotdam moron when it comes to his composure.
Wacko, like I said we see it through different eyes. If I mention William Bo James and Bernard Hopkins things will go quiet. But I wouldn't have an opinion on Hopkins because of it. I will never call a fighter a bum, especially if I never met him. And I find it hard to believe that Zab is a black eye for boxing, there have been far worst incidents.
and besides the Nady incident, his hit on Baldomir which is interpeted many ways by Zab haters and detracters and this low blow of Floyd and riot INSTIGATED by Roger Mayweather. You can't name anything else about Zab.
baby if you can name that many things about one fighter.................................
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If what he did to Nady wasn't enough to prove that he's a black eye on boxing...then we have nothing else to discuss about Judah...
I mean really...& you know I love getting into discussions with you...but I just can't follow your lead for this fool. I just can't.
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If what he did to Nady wasn't enough to prove that he's a black eye on boxing...then we have nothing else to discuss about Judah...
Why don't we discuss the aftermath. Let's discuss Judah's apology. And it wasn't a one time thing, as Nady has said even the most RECENTLY. he respects Zab Judah as a man because Zab since then has been nothing but class for him and his family and has done multiple things for them. This is the kind of stuff that never hits the air about Zab Judah because the media will always paint him as the bad guy.
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If what he did to Nady wasn't enough to prove that he's a black eye on boxing...then we have nothing else to discuss about Judah...
Why don't we discuss the aftermath. Let's discuss Judah's apology. And it wasn't a one time thing, as Nady has said even the most RECENTLY. he respects Zab Judah as a man because Zab since then has been nothing but class for him and his family and has done multiple things for them. This is the kind of stuff that never hits the air about Zab Judah because the media will always paint him as the bad guy.
Starr...I already know all of that about the apology. Read that in an inteview. He things that Judah is a brilliant fighter also & that at the moment he thought that Judah was just reacting under partial control.
Why can you not just accept the fact that no matter what anyone...you the media or whomever says about Judah...I'm a big enough boy to make my own opinion of him & his immature ways?
He can fight...but I do not like Zab Judah. Period...end of story.
What more do you want to hear me say? Don't answer that...I've said all I'm going to say about him... ;)
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Starr
You who say Zab is a bum says Kostya is great because he knocked ZAB out and Floyd couldn't? You must think a lot higher of Zab then you think.
Zab is a bum for how he acts... I'm not saying he's great because he ko'ed Zab when Floyd couldn't... I am saying he had Zab's style figured out in a one round, and Floyd couldn't figure it out in one round... I'll admit I thought Zab was less skilled than he showed, but I still believe that he is one step below the ATG's in terms of skill if not ability.
:cooclick: Taeth
Starr...when I say that he's a bum...I mean that he is a bum by the way he presents himself.
He's an idiot. He's a gifted fighter...but he's a gotdam moron when it comes to his composure.
CC back... Zab was being respectful in comparison to how he has in the past, and he was still an ass last night.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Why can you not just accept the fact that no matter what anyone...you the media or whomever says about Judah...I'm a big enough boy to make my own opinion of him & his immature ways?
He can fight...but I do not like Zab Judah. Period...end of story.
That is all I wanted to hear, and I never will dislike him unless I actually SEE something that would make me dislike him like that. I won't excuse any fighter if I SEE something that makes me think that, and its not just because it's Zab, Floyd could have done the same thing and I'd be defending him the same way.
You know me, that even though I was all for Zab this promotion. That for PBF I have defended him GREATLY in the past(PBF) when someone said the same kind of stuff.
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Why can you not just accept the fact that no matter what anyone...you the media or whomever says about Judah...I'm a big enough boy to make my own opinion of him & his immature ways?
He can fight...but I do not like Zab Judah. Period...end of story.
That is all I wanted to hear, and I never will dislike him unless I actually SEE something that would make me dislike him like that. I won't excuse any fighter if I SEE something that makes me think that, and its not just because it's Zab, Floyd could have done the same thing and I'd be defending him the same way.
You know me, that even though I was all for Zab this promotion. That for PBF I have defended him GREATLY in the past(PBF) when someone said the same kind of stuff.
Works for me. Night night people & Starr.
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