Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by skel1983
I disagree Wallace, i have always fancied PBF to beat Hatton, but after watching the fight, it will be a very close fight, i think PBF's power is not up to much at 147, i think Hatton can take anything PBF has to offer, you say he worked Judah out after 4 rounds i agree to a certain degree, but Judah stop pressing and that is something Hatton will not do.
I know that it is hard to make comparisons, with the fact Judah is a slick southpaw, but i think Floyd is going to find it hard to keep the bigger man in my opinion in terms of physical stength, Hatton has a great chance of beating Floyd and i see it as a definate 50/50 fight.
But with the scorecards of saturday night im not to sure Ricky will get many favours.
Previously i had it 65/35 in Mayweather's favour, but like i say it's hard to make comparisons because of the different styles of Judah and Hatton, but after seeing Floyd operate at 147, i think he could have problems keeping Hatton off him for 12 rnds.
Hi Skel, it seems we are reaching the same conclusion from different viewpoints! I always had Ricky winning against PBF but now I think it's closer because of what you just said. Can't agree more on the power issue, there is no chance PBF can hurt Ricky with one punch, but look at what the volume of punches did to Gatti. Also Ricky can cut up which I feel will be a factor in the fight.
Judah stopped pressing because of what was coming back from PBF, like I said PBF changed his strategy and it worked, completely nullifying Judah. He went defensive so that he would make the 12 rounds.
Bottom line is I think we both agree this should be a good, close competative fight.
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
judah stopped pressing cuz he thought his punches would be blocked, and PBF would counter, he was scared of what mistakes he might make, not what PBF had already done to him ;)
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
judah stopped pressing cuz he thought his punches would be blocked, and PBF would counter, he was scared of what mistakes he might make, not what PBF had already done to him ;)
So you agree it was because of what was coming back... ;)
Seriously though that's my main issue with the fight. If Zab had thrown he had a chance, but for whatever reason he stopped. How could he expect to win if he was throwing no punches? The first 4 rounds were good and I was really enjoying seeing PBF tested, but then Zab just stopped doing anything. What was he thinking!!!
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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If Hatton can pound away at his body with success and slow him down fairly early then he IMO beats him 8)
Looked good in fits and spurts but was'nt overly impressed to be honest.
He done enough really.
Hatton Beats him for me. 8)
I disagree. This fight in no way showed what hatton could do. Why? Cause he fought a fast technical southpaw. Southpaws are known worldwide for giving orthodox problems. Thats why floyd didn't look as good as usual but he still looked good none the less. Floyd fights way better against orthodox fighters. A fighter like hatton who is a righty with his wild lunging shots and suspect defense will get tagged flush on the face a lot. I don't care how tough you think he is that takes an effect on a fighter. Will he hit floyd? Yes but I think he will take alot of leather in the process. Unless he hurts floyd with a good body shot I just can't see him winning.It would be a good fight. i think he has a better chance than margarito
i agree. i think hatton fights more like chico than zab. and we know what happened to chico. i'm not saying floyd would take out hatton that easy--hatton's definitely better and more determined than chico--but mrmanick's right: hatton's style is pretty undisciplined, and he'll get hit A LOT. floyd by 10th round stoppage.
Please Chicco???
Hatton could take Pbf shots for 500 rounds, for me Floyd cant hurt Hatton physically which could be the major factor, the speed is another thing, but i am a Hatton fan and i have to admit after watching saturdays fight i felt more optomistic about Ricky's chances.
If you'd bothered to read my post fully, you'd see that i noted that hatton's better and more determined than chico, and wouldn't by any means get taken out so easily. the main point, which you somehow missed, is that hatton fights more in the style of chico (undisciplined slugger) than the style of zab (slick, technical boxer). You can say that this is irrelevant to the outcome of a possible floyd/hatton fight, but you can't possibly dispute its truth--hatton is not a technical boxer; zab is. (for that reason it's also ridiculous to draw too many conclusions from this completely different stylistic fight as to what might happen in floyd/hatton.)
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by Wallace
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
judah stopped pressing cuz he thought his punches would be blocked, and PBF would counter, he was scared of what mistakes he might make, not what PBF had already done to him ;)
So you agree it was because of what was coming back... ;)
no, what COULD HAVE come back, he didnt think he had been hit with floyds best shot, and until he was he was gonna be cautious
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
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Originally Posted by Wallace
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
judah stopped pressing cuz he thought his punches would be blocked, and PBF would counter, he was scared of what mistakes he might make, not what PBF had already done to him ;)
So you agree it was because of what was coming back... ;)
no, what COULD HAVE come back, he didnt think he had been hit with floyds best shot, and until he was he was gonna be cautious
I see your point but what kind of plan is that? I'll do nothing in case I get hit with a hard shot!!! I never though I'd be comparing Zab to Audrey Harrison!
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
judah stopped pressing cuz he thought his punches would be blocked, and PBF would counter, he was scared of what mistakes he might make, not what PBF had already done to him ;)
I think what you mean is ZAB WAS SCARED........ OF getting KO'D and that's why he swung for the cajones....
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Watched it too & I don't reckon Floyd could keep Ricky off him.
Hatton would be willing to take Floyds shots to get inside & outwork him in most rounds.
Does anyone have the link so I can check it out. Thanks
PM'd you a decent site to download it from mate ;)
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
I wanna say this...if Hatton were to beat Floyd...I wouldn't have a huge problem with it...as long as it was a good fight & all was fair & decent.
Believe it or not...I wouldn't have had a huge problem if Judah won...I take that back...I would have puked...but had it been fair...I woulda applauded Judah...hell I was applauding him...but milk has been spilt...& there is no use in crying over it...
Unless ofcourse you are Don King, Judah, or a Judah fan. ;D
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
Have to agree Smash ;)
I was thinking what would happen if it was Hatton in there... but you also have to take into account that Ricky would get hit alot more than Zab did but i still see him working Floyd over bigtime to the body. :)
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
Come on people, Hatton would be a challenge but Floyd would not fight Ricky like he did against Judah. I would give Ricky a huge chance but for one thing, and even the most ardent Hatton fan would have to agree with me: Floyd may not have pop at 147 bu Ricky is going to get hit alot and well, Hatton would be cut. I think PBF would actually win on cuts. Ricky just cuts too easily,see against Maussa?! PBF will hit him 10 times more and harder than Mausaa plus all the heads coming together and elbows etc.
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
I know what your saying The Game, but Hatton doesn't stop, there was times in the Judah fight where Judah was just to scared to get hit, Hatton will fly at him, i have wathched the fight three times now, and i am thinking Hatton will not stop, he will take punches but that won't bother Hatton one bit, he will be on him from the word go.
This will be a great spectacle mark my words whoever doesn't want to see this fight is just plain stupid, because everyone knows Hatton has no respect for anyone when he gets in that ring, i.e KT, people were saying prior to that fight KT will stop him coming forward, no chance. The slick boxer v the pressure fighter and for me not only a pressure fighter a unique pressure fighter who can go for three minutes.
Floyd will never had taken so many shots as he will from Hatton, i cant wait.
What do you reckon the odds would be if this fight was say in a few months??
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by skel1983
What do you reckon the odds would be if this fight was say in a few months??
floyd 5:1. i'm not saying it's fair, but i don't think the money's going to be on hatton for this fight.
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by Smashup
If Hatton can pound away at his body with success and slow him down fairly early then he IMO beats him 8)
Looked good in fits and spurts but was'nt overly impressed to be honest.
He done enough really.
Hatton Beats him for me. 8)
No way would Hatton get in on him... When Mayweather would come in Hatton would be completely overwhelmed by his speed. Also you say Hatton doesn't stop... well Mayweather wouldn't have to stop either because he's in better shape than Hatton, and though his punches might not bother Hatton look at his fight with Gatti who can usually retaliate to almost anyone. Floyd Mayweather follows through with his punches against slower punchers so that they can't respond to anything he throws because he's out of there before they know he hit them.
Re: Just watched PBF/Judah and Hatton can take him IMO
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Originally Posted by Smashup
If Hatton can pound away at his body with success and slow him down fairly early then he IMO beats him 8)
Looked good in fits and spurts but was'nt overly impressed to be honest.
He done enough really.
Hatton Beats him for me. 8)
No way would Hatton get in on him... When Mayweather would come in Hatton would be completely overwhelmed by his speed. Also you say Hatton doesn't stop... well Mayweather wouldn't have to stop either because he's in better shape than Hatton, and though his punches might not bother Hatton look at his fight with Gatti who can usually retaliate to almost anyone. Floyd Mayweather follows through with his punches against slower punchers so that they can't respond to anything he throws because he's out of there before they know he hit them.
i thought hatton would get demolished...
and then i realized PBF is kind of a pussy, he is ACTUALLY afraid of hatton and margarito,
and he doesnt defend well while scared
