Mayorga On B-Hop - De La Hoya: "Everyone knows he took a dive in that fight"

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Originally Posted by LBSCFC

when mayorga has achieved what oscar has in pro boxing then he can talk the trash. He does talk ourt of his a*** a lot

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That's the thing with trash talkers like Mayorga. You get so caught up in it you forget that they was saying the same shit in the last fight before they got knocked out and beaten to a pulp!.

Like Mayorga v Trinidad for example

wonder how he's gonna do after his "bad boy" image is put to rest on May 6th, Mayorga is going to get OWNED

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Originally Posted by Greig

I totally agree with Mayorga - I've always maintained that DLH took a dive against Hopkins. If he had enough strength to thump the canvas while he was down, he had enough strength to get up. Something about that fight stinks...

And yes Mayorga did get put down hard by Tito's body shots - but Tito's left hook his harder than Hopkins' - and Mayorga got up each and every time. He is (or was??) tougher than DLH by a street.

I like Mayorga in this fight big time - provided Tito didn't take all the fight out of him with that beatdown.

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im a huge dlh fan and i do think he will easily whip mayorga--its the perfect stylistic matchup from him---i think it will be similar to the yori boy campas fight but more exciting because mayorga will throw more punches and stand there and fight instead of spitting the bit after every combo like campas did----however the kayo v hop did leave a whiff of a bad smell for me too..........i agree with your point about him punching the mat...usually a body shot that devastating will almost paralyze you completely for a bit-----recent examples being RJJ v virgil hill and gatti v dorin

Totally LawHoops - I honest to God believe that he took a dive.


Now I'm not saying for sure that it was a premeditated thing, but I feel for sure that he was looking for a place to lay down that night. He hadn't taken many shots to the body that night, so it wasn't like the cumulative effect of them wore him down - he got tagged once by a shot that didn't even look that hard and stayed down yet had enough strength to hit the mat in frustration.


Even the post fight interview when he felt he had to explain that 'a good body shot completely paralyses you'. Something about that fight is rotten.

Then my question is why he would do that

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Originally Posted by Greig

Totally LawHoops - I honest to God believe that he took a dive.


Now I'm not saying for sure that it was a premeditated thing, but I feel for sure that he was looking for a place to lay down that night. He hadn't taken many shots to the body that night, so it wasn't like the cumulative effect of them wore him down - he got tagged once by a shot that didn't even look that hard and stayed down yet had enough strength to hit the mat in frustration.


Even the post fight interview when he felt he had to explain that 'a good body shot completely paralyses you'. Something about that fight is rotten.

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Ive played rugby league before and ive been hammered right in the gut by some huge tackles. They hurt like hell but it doesnt limit your ability to move....it makes you not want to move. I know its not really a body shit but thats my experience. And i also did karate for nilly 10 yrs and have been punched and kicked in the stomach....ive never gone down from one but you dont really want to keep moving as it hurts more.

Mayorga could be a fan favourite if he just knew how to tone it down a bit on the whole "Im going to send him to see his death mother" routine.. I mean come on.....

"Ive been sparring with live chickens because they emulate Oscar, they run like him"... THat is truly funny shit. really, that's almost enough to make me cheer for MAyorga momentarily lol.

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Originally Posted by FightingPhil

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Originally Posted by LBSCFC

when mayorga has achieved what oscar has in pro boxing then he can talk the trash. He does talk ourt of his a*** a lot

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yeah buts thats his game, he's there to say outragous stuff and draw attention to the fight(which he does very well) it also helps that he's tough as nails and exciting to watch!

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in his case though talk is very cheap

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Originally Posted by LBSCFC

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Originally Posted by FightingPhil

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Originally Posted by LBSCFC

when mayorga has achieved what oscar has in pro boxing then he can talk the trash. He does talk ourt of his a*** a lot

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yeah buts thats his game, he's there to say outragous stuff and draw attention to the fight(which he does very well) it also helps that he's tough as nails and exciting to watch!

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in his case though talk is very cheap

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he backed it up well against Lewis and Forrest, Tito was to big a step up 4 him especially at Middleweight, but i still fancy him against ODLH

That was a nasty liver shot and it would have dropped anyone in that weight class. If Mayorga can sneak by Dela Hoya he needs to get in there with Hopkins. Lets see if he can take that kind of shot

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Originally Posted by Greig

I totally agree with Mayorga - I've always maintained that DLH took a dive against Hopkins. If he had enough strength to thump the canvas while he was down, he had enough strength to get up. Something about that fight stinks...

And yes Mayorga did get put down hard by Tito's body shots - but Tito's left hook his harder than Hopkins' - and Mayorga got up each and every time. He is (or was??) tougher than DLH by a street.

I like Mayorga in this fight big time - provided Tito didn't take all the fight out of him with that beatdown.

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What possible reason would Oscar have for taking a dive? Money? Like the $20 million he got for that fight wasn't enough to feed his family? Come on now.

There is no way DLH took a dive against B-hop! I have seen several fighters get caught with that liver shot and everyone goes down and rolls around on the mat. Its not like they absolutely cant move, the pain is intense and keeps you from getting up. Gatti went down from a body shot from Ward in their first fight. He got back up, but how many shots did he take to the chin trying to protect that side of his body because he did not want to get hit there again. Some fighters can get up some cant. But I cant take anything away from any of them, everybody takes those shots differently.

I used to question whether Oscar took a dive too but seriously,the guy has a heart of warrior deep down and I don't think his Mexican machismo would let him lye down for anyone!!!

what Mexican Machismo? ODH is pure American in his thinking and life. That Mexican thing is just for suckers and to get fans.

Any idiot taking a close look at Oscar would see that he is all american, all californian, and all Los Angelean. The boy is purely Corporate, in speech, attitude, dress etc.

Barrera, Morales, and Vargas are more of the Mexican peasant ilk, because of the poverty they grew up in. This is why Mexicans genuinely love them.

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Originally Posted by BigMix27

what Mexican Machismo? ODH is pure American in his thinking and life. That Mexican thing is just for suckers and to get fans.

Any idiot taking a close look at Oscar would see that he is all american, all californian, and all Los Angelean. The boy is purely Corporate, in speech, attitude, dress etc.

Barrera, Morales, and Vargas are more of the Mexican peasant ilk, because of the poverty they grew up in. This is why Mexicans genuinely love them.

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True but I mean the Mexican in him that koed Vargas,the Mexican in him that stood toe to toe with Chavez,only Mexican machismo would allow him to do that! I agree though,most of him,is American. I guess he only appeals to Mexicans when he wants to. Anyone fill me in:how do Mexicans/south Americans see him?