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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by smashcrusher
Jones was robbed in the Olympics.
Jones v Korea takes the cake for me. He nearly didnt turn pro because of that result, imagine that...
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Leonard - Hearns deuce, IMO
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Ahh I see what you mean! ;D
I kneel to your superior wit and intellect. See my post in the noobs knowing nothing about boxing thread. :P
Cheers :-[,
And I take my hand off for your kind compliments.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Joel Casamayor-Arcelino Freitas
Joel Casamayor-Diego Corrales 2
Joel Casamayor-Jose Luis Castillo
Raul Marquez-Keith Mullings (did you see Marquez's face)
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Joel Casamayor-Arcelino Freitas
Joel Casamayor-Diego Corrales 2
Joel Casamayor-Jose Luis Castillo
Raul Marquez-Keith Mullings (did you see Marquez's face)
Casamayor has had a few controversial losses and what not. The second Corrales fight, despite droppin Chico I felt he lost. The Freitas fight, I also felt he lost, but it was close. He definately got screwed against Kid Diamond, he won that fight, it was no draw. But against Castillo? Come on. He was manhandled and beaten up worse than ever before or since in his career.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
Collazo-Hatton
I'm pretty sure people will find it hard to take you seriously now.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Chris Byrd and Dominick Guinn robbed me of $40.00
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
Depends what you mean by robbery, do you also include fixes?
If you include fixes, then it has to be Escalera/Everett; out and out robberies that have not been proven fixed, Ramirez/WhitakerI, screams out.
Wow, go head Brit Kid, I did'nt think any one remembered Alfredo Escalera/Tyrone Everett, at least not on this forum, it's ashame what happened to Everett later though. I would like to sit down and talk with you about boxing, your very knowledgeable about boxing.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
Collazo-Hatton
I'm pretty sure people will find it hard to take you seriously now.
That was a robbery. Just not the biggest of all time. But a robbery none the less.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
Chris Byrd and Dominick Guinn robbed me of $40.00
They fought?
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Joel Casamayor-Arcelino Freitas
Joel Casamayor-Diego Corrales 2
Joel Casamayor-Jose Luis Castillo
Raul Marquez-Keith Mullings (did you see Marquez's face)
Casamayor has had a few controversial losses and what not. The second Corrales fight, despite droppin Chico I felt he lost. The Freitas fight, I also felt he lost, but it was close. He definately got screwed against Kid Diamond, he won that fight, it was no draw. But against Castillo? Come on. He was manhandled and beaten up worse than ever before or since in his career.
Freitas got credited for a knock down that was'nt. Not only did he floor Corrales, but he backed him up all night. Against Castillo, he faded badly. But the clearly won the first half of the fight, I taught he held on.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Joel Casamayor-Arcelino Freitas
Joel Casamayor-Diego Corrales 2
Joel Casamayor-Jose Luis Castillo
Raul Marquez-Keith Mullings (did you see Marquez's face)
Casamayor has had a few controversial losses and what not. The second Corrales fight, despite droppin Chico I felt he lost. The Freitas fight, I also felt he lost, but it was close. He definately got screwed against Kid Diamond, he won that fight, it was no draw. But against Castillo? Come on. He was manhandled and beaten up worse than ever before or since in his career.
Freitas got credited for a knock down that was'nt. Not only did he floor Corrales, but he backed him up all night. Against Castillo, he faded badly. But the clearly won the first half of the fight, I taught he held on.
You Cuban or something? Castillo definately won that fight IMO. Also what became of Joel after the draw with Kid Diamond?
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
Collazo-Hatton
I'm pretty sure people will find it hard to take you seriously now.
That was a robbery. Just not the biggest of all time. But a robbery none the less.
It was a robbery despite the fact....3 judges.....HBO.....and skysports all scored it to Hatton.
Were you born a muppet? or was it something you learnt?
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Clydey_2_Times
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
Collazo-Hatton
I'm pretty sure people will find it hard to take you seriously now.
That was a robbery. Just not the biggest of all time. But a robbery none the less.
It was nothing like a robbery. Hatton won that if you scored it on a round per round basis. Not one reasonable person could call that a robbery or anything but a close fight.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Joel Casamayor-Arcelino Freitas
Joel Casamayor-Diego Corrales 2
Joel Casamayor-Jose Luis Castillo
Raul Marquez-Keith Mullings (did you see Marquez's face)
Casamayor has had a few controversial losses and what not. The second Corrales fight, despite droppin Chico I felt he lost. The Freitas fight, I also felt he lost, but it was close. He definately got screwed against Kid Diamond, he won that fight, it was no draw. But against Castillo? Come on. He was manhandled and beaten up worse than ever before or since in his career.
Freitas got credited for a knock down that was'nt. Not only did he floor Corrales, but he backed him up all night. Against Castillo, he faded badly. But the clearly won the first half of the fight, I taught he held on.
You Cuban or something? Castillo definately won that fight IMO. Also what became of Joel after the draw with Kid Diamond?
Nah, I'm Mexican, ese. Im a big Castillo fan, But, I call it like I see them. I don't let my race, cloud my thinking. Just cuz a fighter is Mexican dosn't mean I'm going to automatically think he won. Plus Casamayor scored a knock out win after the Dimond fight.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
To be a robbery, surely the loser had to have won without doubt - can't say that aout a lot these fights
How about Jimmy Vincent v David Barnes - (only a few people will know the fight I mean)
I know the fight you mean! There was only one fighter pushing all night and he worked his ass off. They clearly gave it to the more famous prospect, who looked shocked that he go the decision. Barnes was shown up in his next fight thought. Would also have to shout out Robin Reid vs Sven Ottke. If I was Sven I'd be too embarrassed to show my face, but then quite a few of his final fights could be picked for this discussion!!
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
Collazo-Hatton
Hahaha... wait till your not excited over the fight and then say that... ::** it was a draw or a win for Hatton... not only did he out throw and outland but his punch % was higher too...
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Basilio-Fullmer I & II were HORRIBLE stoppages!
Hearns-Leonard II
Holyfield-Lewis I & II were bad calls
Hatton-Collazo doesn't even break into the top 1,000 bad decisions! And honestly it wasn't even THAT bad of a call, I had the fight Hatton UD, Hatton SD, Hatton MD, or draw at worst
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gah... I always sucker for this... some one says something really stupid and I argue with them... what he just said was so stupid he has to just be a troll trying to provoke arguments and derail threads (either that or a 13 year old band wagon jumper with little or no boxing knowlodge)
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Collazo-Hatton
everyone knows collazo won this fight i dont get a s#@T what u say COLLAZO WON
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by jazlynn
Collazo-Hatton
everyone knows collazo won this fight i dont get a s#@T what u say COLLAZO WON
Classy first post ::** :welcomesign:
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
I am sure that there will be many different opinions on this subject but I have to go with Pernell Whitaker Vs Julio Ceasar Chavez even though I am sure the Oscar fans will say the Tito fight.
Hagler-Leonard, Leonard-Hearns II
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Originally Posted by jazlynn
Collazo-Hatton
everyone knows collazo won this fight i dont get a s#@T what u say COLLAZO WON
So its the biggest robbery of all time? Explain how... Collazo won the fight in my eyes but didn't do enough to be scored points to win the boxing side of things...
Sure he hurt Ricky but you score the boxing... not the fighting... ::**
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Collazo-Hatton
everyone knows collazo won this fight i dont get a s#@T what u say COLLAZO WON
Classy first post ::** :welcomesign:
THANK YOU
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Leonard/Hagler, Hearns/Leonard II
these aren't the biggest of all time but some noticable ones
Holyfield/Lewis I - yea Lewis won
Holyfield/Lewis II- had Holy winning the fight
Holyfield/Ruiz III- had Holy becoming the one and only 5 time heavyweight champion
Agustus/Burton- did everything possible to screw him over
De La Hoya/Whitaker- thought it was about even or Whitaker squeezing out the W, just barely
De La Hoya/Sturm- had Sturm by one round, could make an arguement for it to be a draw
De La Hoya/Trinidad-two words, boxing lesson
De La Hoya/ Mosley II- same as above
Morales/Barrera II- I had Morales winning
Hernandez/Chavez- I thought el famoso won
Hernandez/B. Pacquiao- a complete gift
Mayweather/Castillo I- first loss of PBF's career
Byrd/Oquendo- Oquendo should have won, and was completely screwed over, one of the judges wasn't even qualified to score the fight
Byrd/Golota- again Byrd did not win that fight
Ruiz/Golota- Golota should have been WBA/IBF champion by this time and we probably would we be on our way to having only one champion it would be Rahman/W. Klitschko for the WBC awaiting to take on the would be WBA/WBO/IBF champion Sergei Liakovich (or however you spell it)
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Originally Posted by AC-Cobra
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Originally Posted by ImRipped
Collazo-Hatton
Close fight, not a freaking robbery.
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Lewis-Holyfield 1 being a draw.
Agree entirely
add Chavez - Whitaker
cant remember the name of the other boxer, but that fight Bobby Pacquaio was absolutely gifted last year was unbelievable. I have no clue how that one happened, was ridiculous. Anyone help me out with the name of the other boxer?
Yes it was former World Champ Carlos "Famoso" Hernandez and the loss brought his wife to tears. Judges oughta be real proud of themselves. Now THAT was a ROBBERY my friend.
lol even bobby's trainer said he didn't win it, that Carlos "El Famoso" Hernandez had won it
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Sven Ottke vs. (insert name here) Ayala Tapia rematch.
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I've always wanted to stab Sven Ottke in the ocular cavity for some reason or another, that may be why
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The wrong decisions that Ottke got, have really damaged his legacy.
Because there were quite a few, and Ottke hardly had a crowd pleasing style (Yeah alright the Germans enjoyed it, but they enjoyed Henry Maske and Michalczweski ;)) people forget, that he was a master of his craft, and despite turning pro very late in his career, he managed to use every ounce of amateur boxing experience he had, to make his career a success.
And it was a success from the financial point of view, it is just Ottke has few fans outside mainland Europe because of his horrid style, and few horrible decisions.
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It will always be Mayorga-Spinks for me. It robbed Mayorga of his hard earned world titles and ran him out of the Welter weight division. It was a disgusting robbery.
Spinks clearly outpointed Mayorga.
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
Hernandez-Pacquiao was a big 1
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
The wrong decisions that Ottke got, have really damaged his legacy.
Because there were quite a few, and Ottke hardly had a crowd pleasing style (Yeah alright the Germans enjoyed it, but they enjoyed Henry Maske and Michalczweski ;)) people forget, that he was a master of his craft, and despite turning pro very late in his career, he managed to use every ounce of amateur boxing experience he had, to make his career a success.
And it was a success from the financial point of view, it is just Ottke has few fans outside mainland Europe because of his horrid style, and few horrible decisions.
You can't have a legacy when you're job is to throw effective shots at the opponent and you got feathers for fists
No matter how good that D is! It's the one thing I'll challenge BritKid on O0
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You can't have a legacy when you're job is to throw effective shots at the opponent and you got feathers for fists
No matter how good that D is! It's the one thing I'll challenge BritKid on O0
Maxie Rosenbloom had as an excellent legacy despite only winning 19 fights on a stoppage in 220 wins.
Jake LaMotta was a light puncher 30 KO's in 83 wins.
Myung Woo Yuh was possibly the finest fighter to come out of Korea, despite being 13-0 with 0 KO wins to his name.
Featherfists does not disqualify you from building an excellent legacy. ;)
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
Chris Byrd and Dominick Guinn robbed me of $40.00
They fought?
Sorry I was thinking TOS but my mind said Guinn. Probably cause they both put on a similar show. (sleepy)
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Re: What's the biggest boxing robbery of all time.
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Originally Posted by Britkid
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Originally Posted by raleights
You can't have a legacy when you're job is to throw effective shots at the opponent and you got feathers for fists
No matter how good that D is! It's the one thing I'll challenge BritKid on O0
Maxie Rosenbloom had as an excellent legacy despite only winning 19 fights on a stoppage in 220 wins.
Jake LaMotta was a light puncher 30 KO's in 83 wins.
Myung Woo Yuh was possibly the finest fighter to come out of Korea, despite being 13-0 with 0 KO wins to his name.
Featherfists does not disqualify you from building an excellent legacy. ;)
true, but it stopped ottke :)
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Originally Posted by raleights
true, but it stopped ottke :)
Being featherfisted did not stop Ottke creating a better legacy. What cost him, were them robberies; he already had a boring style of fighting, so that is going to annoy a lot of people, and then when he started getting hometown decisions in his favour, he pissed these people off even more.
That is why Ottke does not get the credit his career deserves, but I am sure he does not care, because he got more money, by making title defences, with a title that should of belonged to other people.
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I'm not exactly trying to win the argument (as if I could), any chance I get at bad mouthing Ottke I'm gonna take it
You're a sad human being for defending him brit!
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Originally Posted by raleights
I'm not exactly trying to win the argument (as if I could), any chance I get at bad mouthing Ottke I'm gonna take it
You're a sad human being for defending him brit!
I have little time for him myself, but I do recognise he was no mug, it took a fair fighter to beat him, and no matter what the record books say, most of us know he lost at least a couple of bouts as a pro.
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Byron Mitchell shoulda found him in the street after their fight and done something horrible
