Re: Even at 220 can Toney
Has James Toney been in with a puncher as powerful as Wladimir Klitschko? I don't think so!
Did Hasim Rahman have trouble connecting with his punches on Toney? Nope, not in the fight I saw!
Sam Peter took the same shots that KO'd Chris Byrd...Wlad just didn't use the hook until the last part of the fight...and once he landed it Peter was hurt.
James Toney will have NO ANSWER for Wlad...Wlad is not only too big for him he's in his prime and Toney is just getting more and more pathetic!
Re: Even at 220 can Toney
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Has James Toney been in with a puncher as powerful as Wladimir Klitschko? I don't think so!
Did Hasim Rahman have trouble connecting with his punches on Toney? Nope, not in the fight I saw!
Sam Peter took the same shots that KO'd Chris Byrd...Wlad just didn't use the hook until the last part of the fight...and once he landed it Peter was hurt.
James Toney will have NO ANSWER for Wlad...Wlad is not only too big for him he's in his prime and Toney is just getting more and more pathetic!
Rahman hits pretty hard, ask Lennox and Tua about that. Oh yes, the hook, how could I forget?! ;D Had he thrown it in the first round of the Peter fight, he would have KO'd him right then I bet. I think it is Wlad who will be frustrated by Toney.
Re: Even at 220 can Toney
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Originally Posted by Lyle
James Toney can come in at 210, 220, 230, whatever he's NOT GOING TO BEAT WLAD!
What does he show you that makes you think he'd stand a chance in hell vs Wlad?
Punching Power? He doesn't have it
Defense? It won't hurt Wlad
Counter punching? Has Toney ever been hit with the power Wlad has?
Stamina? Wlad can go 12 if he has to
James Toney is going to get CRUSHED by Wlad...honestly I hope the fight happens and I hope James gets hyped up as hell before because I want a good solid betting line on Wlad (which won't happen, because no one is that much of an idiot to make Wlad the underdog)
You Toney nut huggers are ridiculous
Well said, Toney is a has been, shoulda been, coulda been, eat again loser. Wlad in five, Toney will get his fat ass handed to him in a Burger King sack.
Re: Even at 220 can Toney
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Rahman hits pretty hard, ask Lennox and Tua about that. Oh yes, the hook, how could I forget?! ;D Had he thrown it in the first round of the Peter fight, he would have KO'd him right then I bet. I think it is Wlad who will be frustrated by Toney.
I know Rahman has the ability to hit hard but he also (can apparently decide) to NOT hit hard. Al Cole, Lennox Lewis II, John Ruiz, old Evander Holyfield (who James Toney was able to knockdown). He wasn't even able to KO Oleg Maskaev!!!
Wlad is the hardest puncher in the division END OF STORY....he's also the best BOXER too
Re: Even at 220 can Toney
This thread is hillarious.
Klitschko overratted. Come the fwock on? This coming from someone that said Mayorga would beat Oscar. Hulk...fuckin please is all I'm saying!
People...go back & do some research on Wlad. Wlad beat many fighters on the way up that either were champions or destroyed champions.
Out of 49 or 50 fights he's had three bad nights...outside of that...he's had about 45 or 46 knockouts...there aint a gotdam thing overratted about that.
Don't sit there & laude some fat ass motor mouth that beat up an old geezer, Ruiz, some blown ups, & a fighter that's been on the slide for the last part of his young career & then dismiss Wlad.
It's bullshit.
Just say that you don't like Klitschko & leave it at that.
Re: Even at 220 can Toney
Of course they don't like Wlad if they like Toney...I mean watching someone as exciting as Wlad could be scary for HULK....I mean after all he's used to watching a fat ass lay on the ropes and eat doughnuts between rounds
cc Wacko
Re: Even at 220 can Toney
Lyle,I gotta believe if Tony gets a shot against Wlad he would be in the best possible shape for being a heavy,we know that would be the fight of his life again James Tony is a prideful arrogant man who gets by on his talent without even trying thats why you see him as such a pig cause lets face it he gets by like that....I will say it again if Tony comes in the shape he should it wont be a walk in the part for Wlad I can see it going to the cards....I have to see one more fight with Wlad before I am convinced that he has repaired his glass mind and is the real dominant man in the division
Re: Even at 220 can Toney
Also dont forget Tony is a tested and proven fighter and is far from a shot fighter at his age,what he gives up in strength and size to Wlad he more than makes up for it with confidence poise, ring generalship and intelligince....Wlad is succeptibe to getting frustrated fast,James on the other hand is seemingly unphased by pressure and is as mentaly tough as they have ever come, and believe me Tony is a master of his craft...
again Wlad knocking out Tony is not a fore gone conclusion IMO..
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Originally Posted by jtrock
Also dont forget Tony is a tested and proven fighter and is far from a shot fighter at his age,what he gives up in strength and size to Wlad he more than makes up for it with confidence poise, ring generalship and intelligince....Wlad is succeptibe to getting frustrated fast,James on the other hand is seemingly unphased by pressure and is as mentaly tough as they have ever come, and believe me Tony is a master of his craft...
again Wlad knocking out Tony is not a fore gone conclusion IMO..
CC. Don't pay attention to Lyle's Klit propoganda. Wlad exciting?! Yep, his style sure is exciting. Run, jab, hold/possibly ride and jump down on opponents neck, rinse and repeat. Oh and occasionally throw a right hand. Now aside from his last fight, which was against a guy he had already smashed years before and had whose skills had deterioated a lot since then, he has looked less than stellar. The Castillo fight was a joke. As was the Williamson fight. The Peter fight was a good win for him, but he did not destroy Peter or any nonsense like that. He got dropped 3 times en route to outpointing the slugger. And watching a master boxer like Toney is exciting, only his last fight was crap, and that is cus he came in totally out of shape like a lazy fat ass. I enjoyed watching him beat on Ruiz, Guinn, Booker etc.