Righto maybe we should have a poll on this. :)
He would get beat by all of them.
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Righto maybe we should have a poll on this. :)
He would get beat by all of them.
Scott Harrison has beat Tracey Patterson, Steve Robinson (quicker than Naseem) Chacon, Mendina, McCullough, Tom 'Boom Boom' Johnson, that's six guy's who were world champions. Also he bas beat Nadel Hussein, William Abelyan and Michael Brodie who were highly rated. Guzman ran away scared of Harrison. Like I said he might not have acheived as much as Barrera or Morlaes but he would beat them, hardley the record of a guy that is not good as you stated. Take Chi who your saying is better than Harrison did Harrison not do far better than Chi against Brodie in stopping in four rounds down in Manchester I think so, and did Chi not turn down a fight with Scott Harrison? Brodie say's Harrison is better than Chi, McCullough say's that he was better than Barrera, Naseem and Morales. Opinions worth listening to when you consider they have both have been in the ring with Harrison and the others I mentioned so would they not know. One think for sure is most fighters Harrison fights don't think he's in here league until after they fight him and they all change there mind. Is he not just been ranked the Number 1 featherweight in the world in front of Marquez, Chi and Chris John e.t.c. He is also the longest reigning featherweight Champion in the world.
nice...glad to see the props to Salvador Sanches inclusion.....I definitely agree with both of the selections....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Sanchez is below Barrera IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigragu
MAB has shown himself superb in 12+ years at or near the top; Sanchez showed glimpses of Greatness, but fate got in the way, and he could not prove himself one way or the other.
JCC, Lopez, Barrera in that order IMO.
This moog guy must be joking about the Harrisson - Barrera thing . Surley he cant be seriousQuote:
Originally Posted by Missy
As for Mexicos greatest fighter . For me its between JCC and Mab . Personally I see Mab as a finer boxer as he can box inteligently . Chavez was prodominantly a brawler . Ofcourse history will decide on achievements and legacy . Mabs story isnt over yet but if he ends his career losing to journeymen like Chavez did then it will tarnish his rep . I dont think he will and if so he'l go down as Mexicos greatest ever sportsman
A big point nobody brings up when discussing todays fighters p f p iswhat happenend in 1990 and before, doing away with sameday 12/ o/clock weighins. It changed the goalpost.I think Boxing skillwise suffered, it gave the cheats a license to cheat more. It always makes me smile when at weigh ins when fighters make weight, the crowd applaudes, why thats what they are supposed to do. Or is it because they know, what everyone else knows that someones been cheating and got away with it.
I don't think an accurate response can be given to this until MAB finishes his career. Regardless of how he finishes though, I think this question will be a perspective thing and highly debatable.
so was lacy and look what happened to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MOOG
Collecting the names of people past their best doesn't count.
So picking Harrison because of where he comes from. He's too slow, too flat footed, too one paced, too hitable. The top guys would smash him in to little drunken pieces.
Oh my gosh,are people attempting to compare Harrison with MAB,EM?!?!
well one person is ;D
It's good to see that some people express positively about Julio Cesar Chavez. In my opinion, Chavez had one of the most accurate and powerful body punches. He won 5 world titles: WBC Super featherweight (1984), WBA Lightweight (1987), WBC Lightweight (1988), WBC Super lightweight (1989), IBF Junior welterweight (1990), WBC Superlightweight (1994) in 3 different divisions. Chávez also went undefeated for 89 bouts before originally retiring with a record of 104-5-2, with 80 knockouts. Among the world champions that Chávez defeated in his career are Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramírez, Rocky Lockridge, Meldrick Taylor, Roger Mayweather, Sammy Fuentes, Héctor "Macho" Camacho, Juan Laporte, Tony López, and Frankie Randall.
His first fight against Taylor was a gift? It doesn't matter if the fighter has .01 of a second left for the round to finish, if he can't answer to the referee then the fight is over, as simple as that. Richard Steel can be seen on the video going "Are you ok?...Are you ok?..." while Taylor is probably seeing stars spinning around his head and was not able to answer...fight was stopped.
Chino
1.cesar chavez 2.salvador sanchez 3.finito lopez 4.ruben olivares
you are an idiotQuote:
Originally Posted by tempostile
err.... That sure seemed an unwarranted welcome to the forum ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89
i know this guy,trust me,he would have just googled for mexican boxersQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
How has nobody mentioned Kid Azteca! He is definately up there.
ryanman89 whats your problem you don't like my top Mexican fighters. whats yours maybe you know more about Mexican fighters.
hahaha imma give you a cc for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89
Sanchez and Chavez. MAB'.s blow out losses to Junior Jones hurt his legacy and his destructioj by Manny doen't help either
I disagree. Alexis Arguello lost to Aaron Pryor twice and his legacy is just fine. Barrera has a lot of great wins over graet opposition. Almost all of the ATGs lost at some point even during their primesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
Shit! this is a tough one..... Uuuummmm!!! Let's see.....
1. JCC
2. Ricardo Lopez
3. Ruben Olivares
4. Erik Morales
5. MAB
6. Salvador Sanchez
7. Humberto Gonzalez
8. Gilberto Roman
9. Daniel Zaragoza
10. IMO the ten spot has to belong to ALL the pioneers of boxing 'Baby' Casanova, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Juan Zurita and the rest.
Honorable mentions to todays fighters: JMM, Rafael Marquez, Jorge Arce, Jose L. Castillo, Miguel A. Gonzalez, Manuel Medina, Oscar Larios.
Honorbale mentions to Past fighters: Miguel Canto, Lupe Pintor, Jose Luis Ramirez, Chucho Castillo, Rafael Herrera, Carlos Zarate.
Gee, what does that make JMM? ??? ??? :o :o O0