I also think Lewis was over rated, thats not to say he wasn't a great boxer but not as good as some people say he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
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I also think Lewis was over rated, thats not to say he wasn't a great boxer but not as good as some people say he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
gianfranco rosi and bash ali
Good calls, Rosi was damn effective, but his style sucked, I reckon he must bored fighters into defeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by LBSCFC
Bash Ali was weird, he was a poor fighter, had 14 fights against decent opposition and lost 14 fights. ;)
To think in 60 odd wins, his best were against Patrick Lumamba and 'Young' Joe Louis...
I just thought that he caught a couple of ex-champs on their way down the hill. Now some people are crazy enough to call him one of the best heavies of all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by ringside
carl froch, depends on his one big punch, he needs to get his head out of his hole and fight like a champ for 12 rounds!
Byrd has fought more than a few boring fights, pernell whitaker was boring, and as much as I like Hopkins, alot of his fights were real snoozers.
Markus Beyer and Sven Ottke
Sven Ottke. Some defensive fighters you watch just to see the mastery like Pernell, and others just are defensive when you know they don't have to be.
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Originally Posted by ringside
The boys at Universium can really put on an insomnia cure telethon. Zolt Erdei, Beyer. Even the undercards are full of universium fighters snoozing their way to underserved points victories.
Your not actually a proper boxing fan are you? ::** Keeeessler boyQuote:
Originally Posted by azumir
it all comes back to Kessler... *yawn*Quote:
Originally Posted by azumir
Where you at the York Hall Bethnal green Friday?Quote:
Originally Posted by magee
If you weren't let me tell you about 'boring' Carl Froch - he dropped your man in the first , breaking his right thumb in the process - then he picked his shots carefully - as magee rushed in and held, rushed in and held for 11 rounds (got 2 warnings for it and nearly a point deducted) - before Froch unscrewed his chin with a whipping upercut with that broken hand - putting magee down on the deck, without even a count. His eyes were at the back of his head and he needed oxygen.
You should get over it mate - magee's supporters did, they left the place before their man even got sat on a stool, leaving their huge Brian Magee banner behind!
It was 'boring' froch and his fans that gave Brian Magee the applause at the end. It was pretty disgraceful.
Perhaps if Brian had fans as passionate as you he might have done better.
Peace.
for me its easily john ruiz and lewis both boring as hell.
Magee needed oxegen cause he froch bust his nose from the first knockdown so it was harder for him to breathe. Froch has got talent, though his cockyness loses him respect from pundits and others. He was outpunched on friday night, magee had the better success rate, which echoes my point that magee went out to box and outboxed froch, leaving froch to wait to use his uppercut as he knew brian was suspect at the chin
For me magee boxed quite well, but it annoyed me how he kept holding. If magee had a sloid chin i would go as far as saying that he would have beat froch on points.
Jorge Arce!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just kidding. Probably one of the most exciting champs.
Ruiz by a landslide. At least Lewis destroyed alot of fighters, and gave us a thrill. Watching fake a** wrestling{WWE} is better than watching Ruiz. I don't get into watching guys hug.
I was ringside and everyone was shouting at the ref (who was very lax) to stop magee holding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodge05
Magee, with his southpaw style was enjoying a lot of success, but it wasn't very powerful.
It was close on points i agree - but you can't say that magee was winning anything though.
Good fighter nonetheless; Magee should carry on.
Mikkel Kessler ;D
yeh i got say lewis to!Quote:
Originally Posted by Entragian
I like Lewis compared to Ali....at least Lennox had 1 punch power!
i dont understand how 'boxing fans' as opposed to 'fighting fans' can say they found lennox lewis boring.to see the art we all loved performed to perfection was far from boring.
and what about vs golota, vs botha, vs ruddock, vs grant, vs mcall 2,all brilliant performances.and the absolutely brilliant one punch knock-out vs rahman 2,that has to be my favourite knockout ever!boom!
Without Question it comes down to two fighters, John Ruiz and Cory Spinks. :-X
...no one mentioned Derrick "Smoke" Gainer??? God that guy had hella skill but he NEVER threw any punches!!! No one pissed me off like him!
He'd throw punches if they were low blows. You see his fight with Freddie Norwood? Ref holds Norwood while Gainer hits him in da ballls, then rules it a KO win for Gainer. :o ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I remember thinking that in the Corrales fight, he was extremely cautious for some reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
which would make u pass out faster? byrd vs ruiz or a shot of heroin in your neck?
Neither.....Byrd vs TOSQuote:
Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
Why Byrd? Byrd's been coming forward in all his recent fights, his opponents had been taking a step back from him. All except Wladimer....
John Ruiz is the most boring fighter I have ever seen.
The clutch and stagger technique wears thin after 30 seconds let alone 12 rounds.
Then when your life is returned to you by the final bell, after slowly ebbing away, the post-fight melodrama drags on for months in ridiculous legal actions.
Yaaaaawn, just typing this is making me snoozy.
His best fight was against Tua.
Because Byrd Sucks. ;D Sorry, but it is the truth. I give the lil shat credit for outboxing Tuaman back in the day, and hangin with Vitali till he gave up, and to a degree outboxing old Holyfield. But from about the Oquendo fight on, he has really been crap. He lost to Golota. He probably shoulda lost to Mccline, I dunno for sure on the account of I refuse to watch that fight because both of them suck, and the mere thought of them in the same ring makes me sleepy. And then he executed a very brave yet very stupid fight plan against Wladimir. Guy should retire IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starr
Oquendo, McCline, and Golota were fights he should have lost (and he should have streered clear of to begin with)
Wlad has Chris' number, I don't think The Steelhammer lost 1 round vs him in the 2 fights they have had.
I admire Chris' guts, he says he'd fight Wlad again anytime....and he's a nice guy too. I just think he was more exciting vs brawlers and not vs boxers.
It's like the WBA belt is cursed, Ruiz, Valuev....they all bore me to tears
i have seen some of rocky marcianos fights and they were kind of boring...
Whatever dude...he didn't have a pretty defense but his KO's were GREATQuote:
Originally Posted by tonythedon
Yeah good one.... ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by tonythedon
youyou can say what you want, but my opinion is that they were boringQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by cockey cockney
CC Yes....he can't be serious. What's boring about a guy who knocks people on their ass?
CC I will never understand all of the Rocky bashing that goes on in here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
CC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
I don't want to say that he sucks but I agree with everything else you said. The guy reached a point where he started losing to some questionable opposition...which either signifies that
A) He just started losing his skills
B) He just really never belonged in with the heavies.
I think that it's B.....the guy has a lot of skill but he needs to ride out his career in a lighter weight class. He kept repeating after the Wlad 2 that Wlad is so big. Well, maybe the guy should take the hint and drop weight. As I have said before, I would pay money to see him fight Bell.
Ruiz without a doubt. And Valuev is pretty boring but at least he's nine feet tall. Rahman is dull. Regarding Lewis however, Jack Dempsey had perfected the art of the one-two knockout punch back in the 1910s and 1920s... the thing was Dempsey was usually six inches shorter and thirty pounds lighter than his opponents. Lennox had the punching techniques down really really well and almost always had an edge on his opponents. And if you notice, most of the best heavyweights of the lest few years have the same attributes: Tall, strong, good one-two. If you're going to put Lewis in as the most boring champ you will have to leave room for every single current heavyweight champ and every single heavyweight champ of the last ten years. So I'm going to do that:
Most boring champ: Every heavyweight strapholder in the last ten years!