Re: RABAH ROBBED OF A WORLD TITLE!
I had it 116-112 Rabah, I thought it was a depressingly bad fight but Rabah won IMO. I hate agreeing with Teddy Atlas on a scorecard cause he's usually a horrible judge but Rabah did win the fight. But I've definitely seen worse robberies, its not like Rabah landed much of anything meaningful the whole night but Urango landed pretty much nothing. Rabah's landed punches weren't very clean at all but Urango was horrible, sure he "pressured" Rabah but that mainly was just aimlessly walking forward without a jab and without a body attack. It was clear that going to the body was the way to go against Rabah but he just loaded up with one punch at a time. Just don't like Urango's style, don't like Rabah's either but he did outbox him.
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I had it 116-112 Rabah, I thought it was a depressingly bad fight but Rabah won IMO. I hate agreeing with Teddy Atlas on a scorecard cause he's usually a horrible judge but Rabah did win the fight. But I've definitely seen worse robberies, its not like Rabah landed much of anything meaningful the whole night but Urango landed pretty much nothing. Rabah's landed punches weren't very clean at all but Urango was horrible, sure he "pressured" Rabah but that mainly was just aimlessly walking forward without a jab and without a body attack. It was clear that going to the body was the way to go against Rabah but he just loaded up with one punch at a time. Just don't like Urango's style, don't like Rabah's either but he did outbox him.
This is a great observation of the fight! I thought the fight was less impressive b/c Ben Rabah would not LET Urango get started. I also believe that if Urango threw A JAB and some BODY punches, he would have STOPPED Ben Rabah, but he was outclassed in the ring -- or just inexperienced. Either way, **fsuboxman ** is lost in the store when he says YOU HAD TO BE THERE... no... Urango had to be there and he wasn't when it came to punches!
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Thats the worst robbery ive ever seen, god....thats bullshit. Rabah won at least 117 to 111 and the other guy got a UD. Home town decision, thats fucking bullshit. Absolute robbery,Urango must of known the judges were gonna rob rabah coz he acted like he knew it was going to happen. Fucking boxing politics, piece of shit judges can go fuck themselves >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad
karma is a bitch! another aussie embarresment :lol:
Aussie embarrassment dont think so mate, he beat that little bastard and got robbed. I tell ya what was karma, seeing little ricky get his ass kicked by collazo!
I wasn't talking about Rabah mate, I was on about you snakey ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
In all seriousness though, in any other country Rabah would have won, but like what happened to winky wright and countless countless times before, aggression wins fights in the states.
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I was completely shocked at this decision...
It was a No-Brainer.....
As much as I hate it, thats what happens when decisions are left to the judges....You get BULLSHIT like that!!!
Anyone that says different about this fight either didnt see the fight or watched it with the same Horse Blinds that the judges were wearing....
Good Luck,
Coach
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Snakey and others I watched the fight, the whole thing, pretty closely too. It was boring, because it was apparent that one guy just did not want to fight at all, and the other was too slow to catch him. And whoever is bringin up Ali's early fights, let me explain somethin to ya, he boxed. He used his legs but he stuck and moved and connected on his opponent with clean shots. Just like Pernell Whitaker and recently Floyd Maywhether. What Rabah did was run, offer next to nothing offensively, besides the occasional slap or pitter patt punch and didn't put combos together. Urango pressed the action, but connected less than Rabah, but when he did connect, they were punches not slaps. I saw it 116-112 Urango.
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Thats the worst robbery ive ever seen, god....thats bullshit. Rabah won at least 117 to 111 and the other guy got a UD. Home town decision, thats F****** bullshit. Absolute robbery,Urango must of known the judges were gonna rob rabah coz he acted like he knew it was going to happen. F****** boxing politics, piece of S*** judges can go F*** themselves >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad
Oh yes! Strong Columbian Indian beating sneaky Tunisian Muslim could be very good for Indian casino image. Hey southern brother! “you just chase slick Tunisian—throw lot of punches kinda like mad-indian-machine, swing arms and you win fight guaranteed.
Oh no! Saddoboxing forum thinking hanky panky on casino grounds— pow wow time. Aha! we call moderators and have them assure everyone that agressive Indian really won fight-ha ha ha, high five.
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Thats the worst robbery ive ever seen, god....thats bullshit. Rabah won at least 117 to 111 and the other guy got a UD. Home town decision, thats F****** bullshit. Absolute robbery,Urango must of known the judges were gonna rob rabah coz he acted like he knew it was going to happen. F****** boxing politics, piece of S*** judges can go F*** themselves >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad
Oh yes! Strong Columbian Indian beating sneaky Tunisian Muslim could be very good for Indian casino image. Hey southern brother! “you just chase slick Tunisian—throw lot of punches kinda like mad-indian-machine, swing arms and you win fight guaranteed.
Oh no! Saddoboxing forum thinking hanky panky on casino grounds— pow wow time. Aha! we call moderators and have them assure everyone that agressive Indian really won fight-ha ha ha, high five.
Huh? All I understand is Rabah ran like a beotch, did not BOX, and lost a boring fight.
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I think I will stick with Mine and Teddy's view on this one but i agree about the boring style.
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Thats the worst robbery ive ever seen, god....thats bullshit. Rabah won at least 117 to 111 and the other guy got a UD. Home town decision, thats F****** bullshit. Absolute robbery,Urango must of known the judges were gonna rob rabah coz he acted like he knew it was going to happen. F****** boxing politics, piece of S*** judges can go F*** themselves >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad >:mad
Oh yes! Strong Columbian Indian beating sneaky Tunisian Muslim could be very good for Indian casino image. Hey southern brother! “you just chase slick Tunisian—throw lot of punches kinda like mad-indian-machine, swing arms and you win fight guaranteed.
Oh no! Saddoboxing forum thinking hanky panky on casino grounds— pow wow time. Aha! we call moderators and have them assure everyone that agressive Indian really won fight-ha ha ha, high five.
Huh? All I understand is Rabah ran like a beotch, did not BOX, and lost a boring fight.
Rabah won that fight easily. Juan couldn't even hit him, and Urango busted him up a few times too.
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I think I will stick with Mine and Teddy's view on this one but i agree about the boring style.
I like Teddy too, and he makes sense most of the time. But just know that his opinion is not th e end all be all. IMO he is not a very good judge of a fight. He scores too many even rounds and usually gets carried away givin too many rounds to one guy. Let us not forget he picked Mayorga to beat Oscar too. ;) :'(
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I think I will stick with Mine and Teddy's view on this one but i agree about the boring style.
I like Teddy too, and he makes sense most of the time. But just know that his opinion is not th e end all be all. IMO he is not a very good judge of a fight. He scores too many even rounds and usually gets carried away givin too many rounds to one guy. Let us not forget he picked Mayorga to beat Oscar too. ;) :'(
Man i understand you like guys who like to brawl and who want to brawl....urango wanted to brawl but couldnt coz he couldnt hit him. Yeah sure he moved alot but thats how you beat a pressure fighter like urango, you move, you jab and you make sure when he throws that big shot then your not there. Rabah was robbed ok, end of story ;)
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I think I will stick with Mine and Teddy's view on this one but i agree about the boring style.
I like Teddy too, and he makes sense most of the time. But just know that his opinion is not th e end all be all. IMO he is not a very good judge of a fight. He scores too many even rounds and usually gets carried away givin too many rounds to one guy. Let us not forget he picked Mayorga to beat Oscar too. ;) :'(
I have actually disagreed with Teddy on quite a few fights but I know is definately not a conformist as are Showtimes Charles and HBO'S Jim and Max. However, to disagree with Teddy on this fight is ludricous.
P.S. Good news though for your style of fighter Hulk for the UFC is coming to HBO
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Im a urango fan and wanted him to win and i can honestly say he lost by a big margin and didnt deserve to win. Fairplay to Rabah!
Cant the boxing commision do anything to overturn the judges' ruling of a fight so obviously misjudged??? ??? ??? ???
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Im a urango fan and wanted him to win and i can honestly say he lost by a big margin and didnt deserve to win. Fairplay to Rabah!
Cant the boxing commision do anything to overturn the judges' ruling of a fight so obviously misjudged??? ??? ??? ???
no I don't think but they could have rematch but again who would like to see another boring fight. Its boxing you always will have bad decisions,IMO never leave nothing to judges go for kill ;D
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If you think Rabah absolutely won the fight then you must also agree that: SRL soundly defeated Hagler, Spinks easily defeated Mayorga and Judah, Raheem was robbed against Freitas, and Casamayor was robbed big time against Jose Luis Castillo. Nearly all of these fights consisted of more action and were higher profile no doubt, but the fundamental similiarty is there. One guy running and bein a "stylist" and the other chasin him. I don't always go for the brawler or score it that way, speakin of Casamayor since he fought tonight and what not, I thought he definately outboxed Kid Diamond, dropping him and landing good shots, but was outboxed by Chico Corrales in the rematch despite dropping him.
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If you think Rabah absolutely won the fight then you must also agree that: SRL soundly defeated Hagler, Spinks easily defeated Mayorga and Judah, Raheem was robbed against Freitas, and Casamayor was robbed big time against Jose Luis Castillo. Nearly all of these fights consisted of more action and were higher profile no doubt, but the fundamental similiarty is there. One guy running and bein a "stylist" and the other chasin him. I don't always go for the brawler or score it that way, speakin of Casamayor since he fought tonight and what not, I thought he definately outboxed Kid Diamond, dropping him and landing good shots, but was outboxed by Chico Corrales in the rematch despite dropping him.
Just a suggestion but I have found that I judge fights better when drinking green tea versus cerveza
Haglar Vs. Leonard stats show leonard landing just 15 more punches but with less power while he floated like a butterfly and stung like a little bee so maybe i give you that one.
Spinks Vs. Mayorga Although the ref was definately for Spinks and Spinks was actually knocked down a couple of times Mayorga fought dirty and was given a boxing lesson so I cant give you this one.
Spinks and Judah Judah looked like a lazy bum until the last round so your definately wrong here.
I agree that Frietas beat Raheem and Costillo beat Casamayor
Kid Diamond was a little better all around over casamayor so I cant give you this one.
I did not see the coralles Casamayor rematch so no comment.
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cerveza? just say beer ;)
anyway, Rabah's corner looked more distraught then him, he had a wtf look on his face and his corner hugged him like he had lost a puppy..they acted like grandmothers at funerals.. AWWW LAAWWWD!! with a little bit of the ice skating girl that was hurt by the hitman.. so it goes AWWW LAWWWWWD!!! Whyyyyyy?!?!
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