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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Since you're obviously another one of those that are buying into what HBO is selling, look at the end of the Wlad vs Byrd fight when they were doing interviews. They asked Lederman for his thoughts and as soon as he started talking about the holding, he got as far as "holding is not legal and it's just not fair", they cut him off quickly before the world hears the truth about what's really going on. Wlad is just an easy guy for them to promote and make money on so excuse me if I'm too smart to see through all that. He has the talent but no the chin or the heart and it shows by him having to hold a light hitting HW like Byrd.
..yes you're too smart to see that he held Byrd to not give him the angles he wanted. If you give a BOXER like Chris Byrd the angles then why even try to fight you won't be able to hit the guy!
Byrd has shorter arms, and is the shorter fighter this means that the closer he gets the more effective his punches are and the less effective Wlad's are...so is it WRONG to tie someone up on the inside?
The same fucking people who get on Wlad's ass for holding never seem to realize that not only Ali did it, not only John Ruiz does it...one IRON MIKE TYSON held on the inside after he threw his punches so he couldn't get countered now tell me how is that different? Evander Holyfield used it as well...I mean I can go on if you want me to but you idiots want to never give Wlad credit that's fine with me it just shows you know fuck all about boxing
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
Wait you forgot Corrrie Sanders ! who cashed that Klitchko check ! now hold the dice !!! I like Klitchko, I am not saying he can't beat taller fighters, I am just saying he HAS to beat them, because he can’t hold them and have an advantage. . and to answer your question, it is 100% illegal to hold/ Clinsh when its part of a fighting strategy. its in the rule book, I say either enforce the rule by taking points away or give the shorter fighter time to fight out of the clinch ! this business of Ref’s running in and breaking up the inside is B.S. Let them fight out of there ! Simple Solution .
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My mind says Wlad dismantles him...The first time he feels that straight right flush to the face he will realize that Wlad hit's like an F'N freight train....If Briggs thought McCline was a tough big man to fight he should look at the tape of how Wlad just walked through him...My heart says there is a chance Wlad and his team underestimates Briggs and his recent opp and feel as though it will be an easy night out...Wlad gets tired and careless then its TKO in Briggs favor....If Wlad comes in and treats Briggs like a legit opp then I think he will have the dread locked Chess playing 260lb on his back thinking about how ol Dicky felt
Good post.....I agree with just about all of it except that from what I understand, Steward pretty much knows that this is going to be a difficult fight.
I think that Wlad really needs to come out of the gate firing his right this time........he can't afford to have two rounds to warm up in as I believe that Brigss strategy will be to come right out and look for a 1st or 2nd round KO.
As for the rest of the thread.......what can I say F****** TYPICAL.....it's the same one or two sour puss' on here who try to discredit Wlad by talking about holding or this or that. To you I say this.......give the man credit for his gifts....he makes exciting fights for you!!!
That pudgy troll JT put us through 12 sloppy rounds with a very mediocre heavyweight and people on this board still give him credit??WTF
At least be honest with yourselves and realize that he just pu$$ied out of a fight with WLad BIG TIME!!!! He was offered lots of cash and a chance to get a belt and he wants to fight PETER????
What's that F****** tell you ???
WAKE UP and open you eyes!!! :o
As far as I am concerned, until these referees allow the short fighter enough time to fight on the inside no reason to put a fight together with Wlad and a short fighter , When you use the hold as a tool or a weapon its an illegal tactic, If your rocked that’s one thing, no problem, but if your doing it as part of a strategy its completely 100% illegal. Now the Ref’s jump right in a break up the action pushing the short fighter miles away from the target ! It’s Bullshit, what they need to do it is either take points away from the Tall fighter the moment that S*** starts happening , or allow the short fighter time on the inside, Yes Ali held a lot no doubt, but the referees allowed Frazier time to fight inside , so eventually the short fighter could get some punches off . The way it is now , its Bullshit ! So I say let Wlad try that jab and grab S*** on Valv. No need to ridicule James Toney.
Sure there's a need to ridicule JT........cause if you want credibility, then you should be able to back up your mouth with action...(walk the walk) and it is absolutely bewildering how half of the heavy fans on this forum can give JT credit when the man can even get into shape for a multi million dollar fight yet they blast Wlad for what????
Here are some facts about Wlad:
1) He has Awesome speed
2) He has Awesome power (even with that jab)
3) He throws combinations
4) He has good footwork and movement (ringmanship if you will)
5)
He's taking the most difficult fights that no one thought he would take...everyone called him chinless so this guy got in the ring with one of the heaviest hitters in the division.
(that alone says it all)
6) Everyone said he had no stamina yet he took Peter the distance and Chris Byrd (+ a knockdown) in Byrd's "prime"
7) Everyone said he was heartless yet this guy has ducked
NO ONE which is more than I can say for any heavyweight out there right now including JT
8 ) Wlad got knocked down by Peter (once legitamately and twice clubbed on the back of the head like some F****** caveman) and still picked his a** up off the canvas, won the fight by a fat margin and wobbled the 2005 heavy-hyped-hopeful of the year!!!!!
All of the things that I have stated here are facts....
SO if you dislike the guy for whatever reason that's fine, but don't try to attribute his success to holding.....most people are going to see right through that bullshat
This guy has more tools and more skills than anyone else in the division at the moment period.
Toney won’t beat Wlad. it’s a fight not worth making or seeing.
Probably very true.....but if that's the case then Toney should have never had even acted like he had any interest in WLad. It's frustrating to me because I saw the whole thing coming. It's Toney being typical Toney.
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Well become a ref then if you don't like it. Holding and pushing are strategic...are you saying holding when you are hurt isn't a STRATEGY???
Wlad does hold at some times where I am like "What the hell are you doing?" but it's not like Ruiz where you can tell when he's going to do it right after ever single punch he throws
Yeah Corrie Sanders beat Wlad but he was swinging like a god damn gorrilla he's lucky he caught him honestly. I have no issues with that loss, other than lean on him Wlad would have had to cover up and play defense anyway...he decided to brawl and he got caught flush nothing wrong in getting caught like that happens to everyone. Also Corrie was a southpaw and a power puncher tell me that doesn't throw a wrench in anyone's game plan
LG have you ever seen heavyweights fight out of a clinch from let's say the 6th to 12th round..no they are bigger they run out of steam faster it's difficult for them to do it. And if you tie up someone's hands they just plain and simple aren't going to be able to fight out of it. Clinching is a part of boxing..the key is when the ref says BREAK you break, and Wlad does that.
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Well become a ref then if you don't like it. Holding and pushing are strategic...are you saying holding when you are hurt isn't a STRATEGY???
Wlad does hold at some times where I am like "What the hell are you doing?" but it's not like Ruiz where you can tell when he's going to do it right after ever single punch he throws
Yeah Corrie Sanders beat Wlad but he was swinging like a god damn gorrilla he's lucky he caught him honestly. I have no issues with that loss, other than lean on him Wlad would have had to cover up and play defense anyway...he decided to brawl and he got caught flush nothing wrong in getting caught like that happens to everyone. Also Corrie was a southpaw and a power puncher tell me that doesn't throw a wrench in anyone's game plan
LG have you ever seen heavyweights fight out of a clinch from let's say the 6th to 12th round..no they are bigger they run out of steam faster it's difficult for them to do it. And if you tie up someone's hands they just plain and simple aren't going to be able to fight out of it. Clinching is a part of boxing..the key is when the ref says BREAK you break, and Wlad does that.
No I am saying it is a strategy. but an illegal stradigy.which should be penalized .. Dude you could say that throwing low blows is a strategy, does not make it legal mate !
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Yes but low blows HURT people clinching DOESN'T......next argument
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Yes but low blows HURT people clinching DOESN'T......next argument
REGULATORY GUIDELINES AND RULES FOR ALL
WORLD AND REGIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP BOUTS
A foul is an action by a boxer, identified by the referee, that does not meet the standard of a fair blow or the conduct of a responsible professional fighter. Fouls may include, but are not limited to, the following types of contact or acts:
#4 Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch;
now lets go to the next argument ;)
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Since you're obviously another one of those that are buying into what HBO is selling, look at the end of the Wlad vs Byrd fight when they were doing interviews. They asked Lederman for his thoughts and as soon as he started talking about the holding, he got as far as "holding is not legal and it's just not fair", they cut him off quickly before the world hears the truth about what's really going on. Wlad is just an easy guy for them to promote and make money on so excuse me if I'm too smart to see through all that. He has the talent but no the chin or the heart and it shows by him having to hold a light hitting HW like Byrd.
..yes you're too smart to see that he held Byrd to not give him the angles he wanted. If you give a BOXER like Chris Byrd the angles then why even try to fight you won't be able to hit the guy!
Byrd has shorter arms, and is the shorter fighter this means that the closer he gets the more effective his punches are and the less effective Wlad's are...so is it WRONG to tie someone up on the inside?
The same F****** people who get on Wlad's a** for holding never seem to realize that not only Ali did it, not only John Ruiz does it...one IRON MIKE TYSON held on the inside after he threw his punches so he couldn't get countered now tell me how is that different? Evander Holyfield used it as well...I mean I can go on if you want me to but you idiots want to never give Wlad credit that's fine with me it just shows you know F*** all about boxing
You type like you're illiterate and I'm the idiot. You get mad every time I tell you the truth and get all worked up but just cause you get mad, that doesn't mean the truth is gonna stop being the truth. I know alot more about boxing than you do. I'm a fan of guys but when they're flaws come up in topic, I don't try to cover it up by quoting commentators and comparing them to all time greats. He is far from a great fighter. If you can't win without holding, you really do suck.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
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Yes but low blows HURT people clinching DOESN'T......next argument
Yes, but Wlad doesn't just clinch, he RIDES his opponents. Often jumping up then coming down on their necks and backs with his whole 250 + lbs. Its a cowardly and illegal tactic. I've seen Ali do similiar tactics, not to mention pick at cuts, and I do not like watching him do it either. Wlad is not flawless, and as others have said, much like Jermain Taylor, is a very good hype job by HBO. Only time Wlad has ever impressed me at all was in defeating Sam Peter, who was raw, but a huge puncher none the less.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
Its not all skill. Its equal parts of skill and strategy. We all know Wlad is great offensively but not defensively. With the grabbing strategy it has allowed Wlad the ability to stay in the fight a longer, especially after he has gotten tagged.
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It's interesting that Wlad was all but washed up before the Peter fight, and now is the best fighter in the division!
The man probably has the most talent in the division right now, at least at this level. He has monster power, great hand speed, and a good mix of punches. One of his most overlooked attributes is his excellent footwork. He is by no means washed up!
With that being said, I still don't think he'll stay at the top very long. For whatever reason, he folds under pressure. He did really well against Peter in that regard, hanging in there until it even looked like he caught a third wind. Also, lots of people here are complaining about Peter hitting him in the back of the head. Am I the only one who saw Wlad turning his back to Peter? I've watched that fight several times, and most of those shots were at least partially due to Wlad turning away from the punches. In any event, if Wlad gets caught by a solid punch, it really rattles him.
Another thing - the Peter fight isn't a good indicator of future success against heavy punchers. Why? Peter is in fact a heavy handed puncher, no doubt - but his punches are terribly slow. That's a good reason why Briggs might very well pose the biggest threat to Wlad's comeback to this point. He's WAY faster than Peter. He's nowhere near as heavy handed, but Briggs can still throw. Add that to the similar reach and height, and Wlad might be in for a tougher fight than expected.
With all that said, I'll still put my money on Wlad for this one...but I think it will be a good indicator of where Wlad really is at this point, where his last two fights weren't quite as illuminating.
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As for the clinching, my opinion is that excessive clinching - a la Ruiz - should NOT be allowed. I think the Wlad/Byrd fight wasn't quite that bad, although it's still not my favorite. It is an intelligent component to be used, though.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
So his success against Byrd was holding.....
NO open your eyes.....he has KO power and his recent success has been due to movement, speed, power and establishing a sturdy frequent jab...all of the elements that make a fighter great
But all of the people that have never liked Wlad always find some bullshat reason to discredit all the skills...
Ali held yet he was "the greatest of all time"
Holyfields famous win over Tyson was a fucking hug fest that far far far exceeded the number of holds Wlad has had in any fight.
Peter got two gift Knockdowns which were to the back of the head and one legit and Wlad still boxed cirlces around him and outpointed him by a gross margin.
My question to you is this...name one other heavy in the division who has more skills than Wlad and the attributes that you feel stand out!!
Wlad=boxing skills multiple tools that I have already listed earlier in the thread and I'm not going to list again.
Sam Peter= Strongly built with chin and clubbing punch that is better suited for a tough-man competition.
The haters are always going to find a reason to hate a boxer they never liked in the first place.
The guy is the best out there-- deal with it.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
So his success against Byrd was holding.....
NO open your eyes.....he has KO power and his recent success has been due to movement, speed, power and establishing a sturdy frequent jab...all of the elements that make a fighter great
But all of the people that have never liked Wlad always find some bullshat reason to discredit all the skills...
Ali held yet he was "the greatest of all time"
Holyfields famous win over Tyson was a F****** hug fest that far far far exceeded the number of holds Wlad has had in any fight.
Peter got two gift Knockdowns which were to the back of the head and one legit and Wlad still boxed cirlces around him and outpointed him by a gross margin.
My question to you is this...name one other heavy in the division who has more skills than Wlad and the attributes that you feel stand out!!
Wlad=boxing skills multiple tools that I have already listed earlier in the thread and I'm not going to list again.
Sam Peter= Strongly built with chin and clubbing punch that is better suited for a tough-man competition.
The haters are always going to find a reason to hate a boxer they never liked in the first place.
The guy is the best out there-- deal with it.
Wlad is good people, I like him, but he is a hugging S.O.B. I like him when he fight taller fighters because there is not as much hugging and more fighting, It not his fault, they the Ref’s let him get away with it, why not hug? its the ref responsibility to stop the hugging, not Wlad ! and Yes Holyfield did his part in the Tyson fight. It’s a bad trend that needs to be dealt with, cause it just makes for a horrible watch. if they going to allow hugging, at least allow time for the short guy to fight on the inside , I can’t stand repeated quick breaks as a solution to the problem, simply because it gives the shorter fighter no chance to win either let them fight out, or take a point away . . The fact of the matter is Holding is a foul ! Holding is against the rules of boxing and is universally recognized as a foul, enforce the rules ! It’s Simple.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
No, he would have been KO'd with out the holding. But like a Klit head said, look how Holyfield fought Tyson, with a lot of holding. Holyfield didn't ride Tyson or jump up then come down on his neck with all his weight like Wlad did with Peter though. And gift knockdowns? When you turn your back in a fight, a la Joe Fraizer vs Goerge Foreman, expect to be hit in the back of the head a good one.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
No, he would have been KO'd with out the holding. But like a Klit head said, look how Holyfield fought Tyson, with a lot of holding. Holyfield didn't ride Tyson or jump up then come down on his neck with all his weight like Wlad did with Peter though. And gift knockdowns? When you turn your back in a fight, a la Joe Fraizer vs Goerge Foreman, expect to be hit in the back of the head a good one.
C'mon man, you lost all credibility with the Toney and Mayorga worship...
just go to bed and let the grown-ups talk this one out!!
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
No, he would have been KO'd with out the holding. But like a Klit head said, look how Holyfield fought Tyson, with a lot of holding. Holyfield didn't ride Tyson or jump up then come down on his neck with all his weight like Wlad did with Peter though. And gift knockdowns? When you turn your back in a fight, a la Joe Fraizer vs Goerge Foreman, expect to be hit in the back of the head a good one.
C'mon man, you lost all credibility with the Toney and Mayorga worship...
just go to bed and let the grown-ups talk this one out!!
Toney is twice the boxer Wlad could ever dream to be. And Mayorga fights like a man and doesn't crumble every time he gets hit with one clean shot. You lost all credibility the day I walked in on you with Wlad's cock in your mouth. I find it hiliraous how Wlad was the next big thing till Cory Sanders. Then it was all bout Vitali, till he made a whopping ONE title defense against fat ass Danny Williams then quit boxing rather than face Rahman. Now its all bout Wlad again! Wahooooooooo! ;D ::**
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
No, he would have been KO'd with out the holding. But like a Klit head said, look how Holyfield fought Tyson, with a lot of holding. Holyfield didn't ride Tyson or jump up then come down on his neck with all his weight like Wlad did with Peter though. And gift knockdowns? When you turn your back in a fight, a la Joe Fraizer vs Goerge Foreman, expect to be hit in the back of the head a good one.
C'mon man, you lost all credibility with the Toney and Mayorga worship...
just go to bed and let the grown-ups talk this one out!!
Toney is twice the boxer Wlad could ever dream to be.
And Mayorga fights like a man and doesn't crumble every time he gets hit with one clean shot. You lost all credibility the day I walked in on you with Wlad's cock in your mouth. I find it hiliraous how Wlad was the next big thing till Cory Sanders. Then it was all bout Vitali, till he made a whopping ONE title defense against fat a** Danny Williams then quit boxing rather than face Rahman. Now its all bout Wlad again! Wahooooooooo! ;D ::**
yeah and I find it hilarious that the outcome of every fight is the opposite of what you predict. As a matter of fact, if I were a gambler I would bet the opposite of whatever you predict.
I don't know how you can say Toney's twice the fighter as Wlad unless you're talking about his waistline....otherwise everyone already knows that Toney pussied out of a title shot against Wlad....within the last 2 months.
So maybe no one told him that he's twice the fighter that Wlad is yet???
And Mayorga just got his a$$ beat by an old Delahoya...pure and simple.
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As for taller fighters fighting Wlad better...I'm not so sure about that. Lennox Lewis had trouble with taller guys but his jab wasn't as effective as Wlad's.
Wlad vs tall fighters/fighters close to his size
Axel Schulz 6'6 TKO 8
David Bostice 6'5 TKO 2
Derrick Jefferson 6'6 TKO 2
Jameel McCline 6'6 TKO 10
The thing is there is no one out there who will out jab Wlad...he has learned to fight tall and he does it very well.
Shannon Briggs is a fighter who was once very good but he hasn't shown that same skill for a long time which is why I think he'll be beaten badly
At this point in Wlad's career, there's no one who can out hug him either. Not even John Ruiz.
Yep.......his success is due entirely to hugging......give me a break and be honest with yourself. The man is beating everyone out there because of skill.
WTF???
You need to be honest with yourself because if you can't see that Wlad's recent success is due to holding, then you're just biased. You really think he would have beaten Peter if he didn't hold him to death? Seriously now.
No, he would have been KO'd with out the holding. But like a Klit head said, look how Holyfield fought Tyson, with a lot of holding. Holyfield didn't ride Tyson or jump up then come down on his neck with all his weight like Wlad did with Peter though. And gift knockdowns? When you turn your back in a fight, a la Joe Fraizer vs Goerge Foreman, expect to be hit in the back of the head a good one.
C'mon man, you lost all credibility with the Toney and Mayorga worship...
just go to bed and let the grown-ups talk this one out!!
Toney is twice the boxer Wlad could ever dream to be. And Mayorga fights like a man and doesn't crumble every time he gets hit with one clean shot. You lost all credibility the day I walked in on you with Wlad's cock in your mouth. I find it hiliraous how Wlad was the next big thing till Cory Sanders. Then it was all bout Vitali, till he made a whopping ONE title defense against fat a** Danny Williams then quit boxing rather than face Rahman. Now its all bout Wlad again! Wahooooooooo! ;D ::**
Thanx Hulk! I had a really rough day at work and I really needed a good laugh like that. CC for you
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
Because those silly cun!s have their own money staked in the Klitchko brothers , they also had a stake in Micheal Grant. LMAO.. look how that turned out,! they have a tall fetish at HBO or somthing. its funny when I see tall , I think timber ! LOL at least when the “ No Holding or Clinching rule is enforced
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
Totally man. Klitheads, live it up, talk shat, cus Wlad will be knocked out again, shortly. His chin STILL sucks. He still gets tired quickly and must hold as a result. He might beat his brothers awesome record of one title defense, but not by much.
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
Byrd was not going to beat him with or without the holding but Peter would have definitely beat him. I'm not here for your replies, just to let the truth be known.
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
Byrd was not going to beat him with or without the holding but Peter would have definitely beat him. I'm not here for your replies, just to let the truth be known.
He outboxed Peter silly.....there was no contest. You can talk about holding all day and night but at the end of the day, Peter was simply outclassed.
If your so into the truth, I think it's pretty fair to say that the truth is that there's not many out there who can beat him right now. For some, that's a hard truth to swallow, but it's the truth nevertheless.
The truth is the man's winning...
The truth is that he is taking the toughest fights out there right now.
The truth is that he has skill.
The truth is that he's not the most popluar heavy out there, but that doesn't have shit to do with his ability.
That's the truth.
A bit of advice....don't keep your fingers crossed to tightly, it may fuck up the blood circulation to your head and cause you to post stupid shit...
or maybe it's already too late.
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
Byrd was not going to beat him with or without the holding but Peter would have definitely beat him. I'm not here for your replies, just to let the truth be known.
He outboxed Peter silly.....there was no contest. You can talk about holding all day and night but at the end of the day, Peter was simply outclassed.
If your so into the truth, I think it's pretty fair to say that the truth is that there's not many out there who can beat him right now. For some, that's a hard truth to swallow, but it's the truth nevertheless.
The truth is the man's winning...
The truth is that he is taking the toughest fights out there right now.
The truth is that he has skill.
The truth is that he's not the most popluar heavy out there, but that doesn't have S*** to do with his ability.
That's the truth.
A bit of advice....don't keep your fingers crossed to tightly, it may F*** up the blood circulation to your head and cause you to post stupid S***...
or maybe it's already too late.
It's funny how you said that you wouldn't reply until I named a better Heavyweight and I mentioned Peter and you replied instantly.LMAO ....... Anytime I mention Peter to Wlad fans, they go nuts cause they know that with a competent ref in there, he would have never won that fight. Granted, outside of Peter, no one else has a shot at beating him. Peter's power and chin are both out of this world and that is just too much for Wlad to contend with. I would be very surprised if Wlad fought him again cause he's obviously terrified of him the way he held on like a broad on prom night. If they do fight again though, don't be surprised if Peter retires his a**. Then again, don't be surprised if Briggs puts it on him.
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by mucho testosterone
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Originally Posted by Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
Byrd was not going to beat him with or without the holding but Peter would have definitely beat him. I'm not here for your replies, just to let the truth be known.
He outboxed Peter silly.....there was no contest. You can talk about holding all day and night but at the end of the day, Peter was simply outclassed.
If your so into the truth, I think it's pretty fair to say that the truth is that there's not many out there who can beat him right now. For some, that's a hard truth to swallow, but it's the truth nevertheless.
The truth is the man's winning...
The truth is that he is taking the toughest fights out there right now.
The truth is that he has skill.
The truth is that he's not the most popluar heavy out there, but that doesn't have S*** to do with his ability.
That's the truth.
A bit of advice....don't keep your fingers crossed to tightly, it may F*** up the blood circulation to your head and cause you to post stupid S***...
or maybe it's already too late.
It's funny how you said that you wouldn't reply until I named a better Heavyweight and I mentioned Peter and you replied instantly.LMAO ....... Anytime I mention Peter to Wlad fans, they go nuts cause they know that with a competent ref in there, he would have never won that fight. Granted, outside of Peter, no one else has a shot at beating him. Peter's power and chin are both out of this world and that is just too much for Wlad to contend with. I would be very surprised if Wlad fought him again cause he's obviously terrified of him the way he held on like a broad on prom night. If they do fight again though, don't be surprised if Peter retires his a**. Then again, don't be surprised if Briggs puts it on him.
Peter's not even close. He's more well fitted for a toughman competition. Peter's eyes were closed at the end of the fight and he was breathing ridiculousy heavy. At one point, they had the poor f***** laying back on his stool. I've watched that fight at least 7 or 8 times since. To all the Wlad fans that was a meaningful fight because he got up after the one legit knockdown and the 2 clubbibngs to the back of the head and won that fight by a unanimous landslide. In that one fight Wlad proved he had the stamina, the heart, and the skills to win.
And the judges counted 3 knockdowns and still the fight wasn't even close!!!! And that fight will be remebered as the turning point for Wlad.
As a matter of fact, if I were you I probably wouldn't have drawn attention to that fight.
Thing that gets me about Peter, is that he gets a shot at the title, loses and then goes back to fighting complete D-level opposition. By doing that, he's admitting that he doesn't belong in the top 15.
Now, finally he's going back up to fight Toney, a man who shouldn't possibly be able to knock him out. A lovely choice of opponents, an over-the-hill plumped up heavyweight with little power who's living off of what he's done in the past.
All he has to do is all he ever does....go bullcharging in there without any real strategy and start swinging his mittens uncontrollably until something lands.
With that pick and those statements you're showing how little you know about the sport. I'd give Briggs a way way way better shot at beating Wlad. Hell, I'd give Valuev a better shot at beating Wlad than Peter.
Any other brilliant picks?? ;)
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unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
Byrd was not going to beat him with or without the holding but Peter would have definitely beat him. I'm not here for your replies, just to let the truth be known.
He outboxed Peter silly.....there was no contest. You can talk about holding all day and night but at the end of the day, Peter was simply outclassed.
If your so into the truth, I think it's pretty fair to say that the truth is that there's not many out there who can beat him right now. For some, that's a hard truth to swallow, but it's the truth nevertheless.
The truth is the man's winning...
The truth is that he is taking the toughest fights out there right now.
The truth is that he has skill.
The truth is that he's not the most popluar heavy out there, but that doesn't have S*** to do with his ability.
That's the truth.
A bit of advice....don't keep your fingers crossed to tightly, it may F*** up the blood circulation to your head and cause you to post stupid S***...
or maybe it's already too late.
It's funny how you said that you wouldn't reply until I named a better Heavyweight and I mentioned Peter and you replied instantly.LMAO ....... Anytime I mention Peter to Wlad fans, they go nuts cause they know that with a competent ref in there, he would have never won that fight. Granted, outside of Peter, no one else has a shot at beating him. Peter's power and chin are both out of this world and that is just too much for Wlad to contend with. I would be very surprised if Wlad fought him again cause he's obviously terrified of him the way he held on like a broad on prom night. If they do fight again though, don't be surprised if Peter retires his a**. Then again, don't be surprised if Briggs puts it on him.
Peter's not even close. He's more well fitted for a toughman competition. Peter's eyes were closed at the end of the fight and he was breathing ridiculousy heavy. At one point, they had the poor f***** laying back on his stool. I've watched that fight at least 7 or 8 times since. To all the Wlad fans that was a meaningful fight because he got up after the one legit knockdown and the 2 clubbibngs to the back of the head and won that fight by a unanimous landslide. In that one fight Wlad proved he had the stamina, the heart, and the skills to win.
And the judges counted 3 knockdowns and still the fight wasn't even close!!!! And that fight will be remebered as the turning point for Wlad.
As a matter of fact, if I were you I probably wouldn't have drawn attention to that fight.
Thing that gets me about Peter, is that he gets a shot at the title, loses and then goes back to fighting complete D-level opposition. By doing that, he's admitting that he doesn't belong in the top 15.
Now, finally he's going back up to fight Toney, a man who shouldn't possibly be able to knock him out. A lovely choice of opponents, an over-the-hill plumped up heavyweight with little power who's living off of what he's done in the past.
All he has to do is all he ever does....go bullcharging in there without any real strategy and start swinging his mittens uncontrollably until something lands.
With that pick and those statements you're showing how little you know about the sport. I'd give Briggs a way way way better shot at beating Wlad. Hell, I'd give Valuev a better shot at beating Wlad than Peter.
Any other brilliant picks?? ;)
ALL three knockdowns were 100% legit. When a man turns his back to you, then gets clubbed in the side or near the back of the head, then its his own damn fault. Just like when Joe Fraizer turned his back and trotted away from Big George and George let him have it, THAT was a knockdown, and rightfully so. Wlad did show heart in that fight, and some skills I admit he won it on points fair and square. By the end exhaustion, partly due to excessive holding and riding by Wladimir, had Peter hurt, and Wlad then landed a clean shot and still could'nt drop Peter. It was an odd fight and both guys showed heart and flaws. Now Peter should be given credit for fighting a guy who is clearly the best boxer in the division and hardest to hit, Toney is certainly a tougher challenge than beating up on an old Byrd who should have lost 3 of his last 4 fights before facing Wlad. Stop hatin on Toney and Peter like they're chumps, cus they most certainly are not. Ain't never seen either of them Knocked out. ;)
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
Byrd was not going to beat him with or without the holding but Peter would have definitely beat him. I'm not here for your replies, just to let the truth be known.
He outboxed Peter silly.....there was no contest. You can talk about holding all day and night but at the end of the day, Peter was simply outclassed.
If your so into the truth, I think it's pretty fair to say that the truth is that there's not many out there who can beat him right now. For some, that's a hard truth to swallow, but it's the truth nevertheless.
The truth is the man's winning...
The truth is that he is taking the toughest fights out there right now.
The truth is that he has skill.
The truth is that he's not the most popluar heavy out there, but that doesn't have S*** to do with his ability.
That's the truth.
A bit of advice....don't keep your fingers crossed to tightly, it may F*** up the blood circulation to your head and cause you to post stupid S***...
or maybe it's already too late.
It's funny how you said that you wouldn't reply until I named a better Heavyweight and I mentioned Peter and you replied instantly.LMAO ....... Anytime I mention Peter to Wlad fans, they go nuts cause they know that with a competent ref in there, he would have never won that fight. Granted, outside of Peter, no one else has a shot at beating him. Peter's power and chin are both out of this world and that is just too much for Wlad to contend with. I would be very surprised if Wlad fought him again cause he's obviously terrified of him the way he held on like a broad on prom night. If they do fight again though, don't be surprised if Peter retires his a**. Then again, don't be surprised if Briggs puts it on him.
Peter's not even close. He's more well fitted for a toughman competition. Peter's eyes were closed at the end of the fight and he was breathing ridiculousy heavy. At one point, they had the poor f***** laying back on his stool. I've watched that fight at least 7 or 8 times since. To all the Wlad fans that was a meaningful fight because he got up after the one legit knockdown and the 2 clubbibngs to the back of the head and won that fight by a unanimous landslide. In that one fight Wlad proved he had the stamina, the heart, and the skills to win.
And the judges counted 3 knockdowns and still the fight wasn't even close!!!! And that fight will be remebered as the turning point for Wlad.
As a matter of fact, if I were you I probably wouldn't have drawn attention to that fight.
Thing that gets me about Peter, is that he gets a shot at the title, loses and then goes back to fighting complete D-level opposition. By doing that, he's admitting that he doesn't belong in the top 15.
Now, finally he's going back up to fight Toney, a man who shouldn't possibly be able to knock him out. A lovely choice of opponents, an over-the-hill plumped up heavyweight with little power who's living off of what he's done in the past.
All he has to do is all he ever does....go bullcharging in there without any real strategy and start swinging his mittens uncontrollably until something lands.
With that pick and those statements you're showing how little you know about the sport. I'd give Briggs a way way way better shot at beating Wlad. Hell, I'd give Valuev a better shot at beating Wlad than Peter.
Any other brilliant picks?? ;)
I dont think you can judge Wlad by the Peter fight. Peter couldnt land anything solid on Wlad and he sure as hell isnt going to land anything on JToney. Wlad never took any solid shots to his face/chin, so I think the jury is still out on Wlad whether he is a new fighter or just hasnt had to be tested yet. I think the Briggs fight might answer some of those questions. Wlad unquestionable has the most talent of the heavies, but unless he can prove he can use that talent in the ring then it dont mean a thing.
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Toney has way more skill than Wlad IMO....its only that Toney pales in comparison physically.....
I bet Toney gets knocked down less than Wlad though against Peter though!! :P ;D
Im not a massive Wlad fan, but its obvious that he has key advantages over most in the divsion...
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KEYWORD:excessive!!!
unless all the "wlad holds to the point of faggotry" people think refs are being paid off by HBO to ignore this , well then find a new way to dimiss wlad. its the refs call. if you think the ref is "fixing" the fight for wlad then say so... ::**
I said it a million times. HBO doesn't even want anyone badmouthing him as was proven when Jim Lampley cut Harold Lederman off in the Wlad vs Byrd post fight analysis in the middle of saying "holding is illegal and unfair". He cut him off, just not in time. If anyone has access to that post it or at least watch it. If that's not proof enough then I don't know what is.
He got "cut off" because as he was bitching. while Wlad was in the process of devestating Byrd......
I think that Lampley is just tired of the horsesh@t excesuses people who dislike Wlad make. The guy is very obviousy the best out there at the moment and either those who don't know heavyweight boxing or those who dislike him for other reasons are the only ones who don't think so.
Harold was still bitter over the Peter fight because he was one of the many who thought that either:
A) Wlad didn't have the heart to finish the fight
B) Wlad didn't have the chin to finish the fight
C) Wlad didn't have the stamina to finish the fight
Yes and a year ago this was the complaint list for all the Wlad haters.
AND NOW that he's proven those points inaccurate, everyone's crying about holding.
It just never F****** ends.
What will it be next year??
Your buddy Hulk knows what I'm talking about because he was one of the whiners reading off the above mentioned list.
Sorry to reply so late but I haven't been on in over a week. He didn't cut him off during the fight. It was afterwards during the ;post fight interviews so pay attention. I;'m also sorry to hear that you;'re such a big fan of his cause his reign will be short lived so enjoy it while you can. Trust me, you'll be eating crow really soon.
You must dislike the guy quite a bit to have this fresh in your mind after a whole week.
And if Santa Claus doesn't bring you another Wlad loss....then what??? You gonna fess up about the guys talent or you gonna make excuses for everyone that falls at his feet while staying up at night clamping your hands tightly together praying for someone with the talent to take him out???
My prediction is your prediction is dead wrong......hate on all you like my friend no one's stopping you.
Until your ready to name another heavyweight with more talent than Wlad right now....don't bother replying to my post...or do but don't expect a reply until you can produce a reasonable argument.
Byrd was not going to beat him with or without the holding but Peter would have definitely beat him. I'm not here for your replies, just to let the truth be known.
He outboxed Peter silly.....there was no contest. You can talk about holding all day and night but at the end of the day, Peter was simply outclassed.
If your so into the truth, I think it's pretty fair to say that the truth is that there's not many out there who can beat him right now. For some, that's a hard truth to swallow, but it's the truth nevertheless.
The truth is the man's winning...
The truth is that he is taking the toughest fights out there right now.
The truth is that he has skill.
The truth is that he's not the most popluar heavy out there, but that doesn't have S*** to do with his ability.
That's the truth.
A bit of advice....don't keep your fingers crossed to tightly, it may F*** up the blood circulation to your head and cause you to post stupid S***...
or maybe it's already too late.
It's funny how you said that you wouldn't reply until I named a better Heavyweight and I mentioned Peter and you replied instantly.LMAO ....... Anytime I mention Peter to Wlad fans, they go nuts cause they know that with a competent ref in there, he would have never won that fight. Granted, outside of Peter, no one else has a shot at beating him. Peter's power and chin are both out of this world and that is just too much for Wlad to contend with. I would be very surprised if Wlad fought him again cause he's obviously terrified of him the way he held on like a broad on prom night. If they do fight again though, don't be surprised if Peter retires his a**. Then again, don't be surprised if Briggs puts it on him.
Peter's not even close. He's more well fitted for a toughman competition. Peter's eyes were closed at the end of the fight and he was breathing ridiculousy heavy. At one point, they had the poor f***** laying back on his stool. I've watched that fight at least 7 or 8 times since. To all the Wlad fans that was a meaningful fight because he got up after the one legit knockdown and the 2 clubbibngs to the back of the head and won that fight by a unanimous landslide. In that one fight Wlad proved he had the stamina, the heart, and the skills to win.
And the judges counted 3 knockdowns and still the fight wasn't even close!!!! And that fight will be remebered as the turning point for Wlad.
As a matter of fact, if I were you I probably wouldn't have drawn attention to that fight.
Thing that gets me about Peter, is that he gets a shot at the title, loses and then goes back to fighting complete D-level opposition. By doing that, he's admitting that he doesn't belong in the top 15.
Now, finally he's going back up to fight Toney, a man who shouldn't possibly be able to knock him out. A lovely choice of opponents, an over-the-hill plumped up heavyweight with little power who's living off of what he's done in the past.
All he has to do is all he ever does....go bullcharging in there without any real strategy and start swinging his mittens uncontrollably until something lands.
With that pick and those statements you're showing how little you know about the sport. I'd give Briggs a way way way better shot at beating Wlad. Hell, I'd give Valuev a better shot at beating Wlad than Peter.
Any other brilliant picks?? ;)
ALL three knockdowns were 100% legit. When a man turns his back to you, then gets clubbed in the side or near the back of the head, then its his own damn fault. Just like when Joe Fraizer turned his back and trotted away from Big George and George let him have it, THAT was a knockdown, and rightfully so. Wlad did show heart in that fight, and some skills I admit he won it on points fair and square. By the end exhaustion, partly due to excessive holding and riding by Wladimir, had Peter hurt, and Wlad then landed a clean shot and still could'nt drop Peter. It was an odd fight and both guys showed heart and flaws. Now Peter should be given credit for fighting a guy who is clearly the best boxer in the division and hardest to hit, Toney is certainly a tougher challenge than beating up on an old Byrd who should have lost 3 of his last 4 fights before facing Wlad. Stop hatin on Toney and Peter like they're chumps, cus they most certainly are not. Ain't never seen either of them Knocked out. ;)
I love telling these Klitheads the facts about their guy. They go absolutely nuts. The thing is that I used to be a fan of Wlad even after his losses. I thought he had enough talent to bouce back and rule the division but after that hug and push fest against Peter, I realized that he ain't nothing unless he fights with his own rules.
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There is nothing more ugly and boring than a hugger....I like a bit of inside work, but when you are just held and unable to move, it kind of goes against what it is in boxing I like....
I wanna see Tua get his 4 fights in this year and then have a crack at Wlad....could be interesting!! ;D
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ALL three knockdowns were 100% legit. When a man turns his back to you, then gets clubbed in the side or near the back of the head, then its his own damn fault. Just like when Joe Fraizer turned his back and trotted away from Big George and George let him have it, THAT was a knockdown, and rightfully so. Wlad did show heart in that fight, and some skills I admit he won it on points fair and square. By the end exhaustion, partly due to excessive holding and riding by Wladimir, had Peter hurt, and Wlad then landed a clean shot and still could'nt drop Peter. It was an odd fight and both guys showed heart and flaws. Now Peter should be given credit for fighting a guy who is clearly the best boxer in the division and hardest to hit, Toney is certainly a tougher challenge than beating up on an old Byrd who should have lost 3 of his last 4 fights before facing Wlad. Stop hatin on Toney and Peter like they're chumps, cus they most certainly are not. Ain't never seen either of them Knocked out. ;)
Denial......it's all I can say. Peter got his a** beat period. You can blame it on holding, or a bad ref or the rain for that matter but the fat mofo had 12 rounds to get rid of Wlad and couldn't do it. Now since when is a hit to the back of the head legal????
And I can't believe you're still picking JT ...his mediocrocy was highlighted in his bout with Rahman. What's your excuse for that??
You really don't know jack S*** about the game, do you?? From your wrong picks to your focked up perspective and analysis of the sport!!
You post like a goddamn child half of the time too?
Whats wrong with you?
Really, were you dropped on your head when you were little?
Did some older sibling used to blow pot smoke in your ear???
I used to just ignore you because I thought you were some looney little kid running around on the forum making bad picks and talking crap about everyone's fighter.
But somedays, even a looney little kid needs a wake up call. So do me a favor...stand up, walk down the hall to your parents room or guardian or handler or whoever has to watch over you, and tell them you need a spanking...or a time out... or whatever they do to keep your wild little a** under control...tell them that mucho said so...tell them that you have picked too many wrong fighters and that your fight analysis is crap. Tell them that you've been annoying on the forum for much too long and that you need to be supervised for a little while.
And don't write back with some goddamn sob story about who and who doesn't watch over you......I'm really not interested..just as long as whoever is responsible for you can take some corrective action here.
