The forum is back up...so let's discuss Wacko's Drunken RBR Gatti vs Baldomir

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Originally Posted by bilbo

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

Whoever said Baldomir dominated this fight is blinder than a bat. He maybe dominated round 3, but the rest of the rounds could have went either way. If gatti didn't hurt his wrist and would have held when he got hurt in the ninth, this fight would have went 12 rounds. What the hell is wrong with gatti? In such a close fight he doesn't even try to hold when he got hurt in the ninth. He took about 20 shots in a row because he refused to hold. What a stupid stupid move on Gatti's part. This fight was close up until the ninth round. Baldomir did not dominate by any means.

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What the hell is wrong with Gatti?

Ummmmmmmmm...he aint a Welterweight & Baldomir is & yes he did get dominated. Anyone who saw the fight & knows boxing knows that Baldomir had the upper hand & took everything that Gatti had at his disposal.

Baldomir did dominate him...the clue to that little revelation was the fact that he TKO'd him in 9 rounds.

Show me a man that is lying down on the canvas from a volley of punches & I show you a man that was just dominated.

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The fact that the referee kept asking if he was alright between rounds was a pretty good indicator too ;)

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Too true.

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Originally Posted by NuthaPug

Probably true. I'm sure it is true. But let's let Baldomir soar as high as he can, and it is the responsibility of those he fights to define how high that is. At present, he is winning against known names. However you cut it, that counts for something.

Doesn't make him a great, but earns him the opportunity to step up and try.

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I totally agree, Baldomir deserves to be where is... I'm just saying lets not get carried away with his last two wins, lets put them in perspective. I've heard some people on this forum saying cause he beat Gatti, that now he can beat Mayweather & Hatton, 2 fighters that IMO are another league higher than Baldomir

Call me crazy but if i was in a close fight and took a shot that hurt me, the last thing i would do is hang my ass on the ropes and bounce up and down, while taking shots, with my hands down and not throwing many punches. I would be holding on until i regained my composure. What a terrible ending to a good fight. Rounds three and nine are the only rounds baldomir dominated, in my book. Gatti landed as many hard shots as baldomir, but baldomir never seemed hurt by them. Close fight, until the knockout.

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

I totally agree, Baldomir deserves to be where is... I'm just saying lets not get carried away with his last two wins, lets put them in perspective. I've heard some people on this forum saying cause he beat Gatti, that now he can beat Mayweather & Hatton, 2 fighters that IMO are another league higher than Baldomir

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I don't think he'd stay the full 12 against either of these two. Maybe against PBF if he (PBF) just stayed outside and pointed all night and didn't step in for the kill. But that would be PBF's choice and not Baldomir's skill. Hatton, he'd just swarm and go for the kill from round 1.

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Originally Posted by NuthaPug

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

I totally agree, Baldomir deserves to be where is... I'm just saying lets not get carried away with his last two wins, lets put them in perspective. I've heard some people on this forum saying cause he beat Gatti, that now he can beat Mayweather & Hatton, 2 fighters that IMO are another league higher than Baldomir

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I don't think he'd stay the full 12 against either of these two. Maybe against PBF if he (PBF) just stayed outside and pointed all night and didn't step in for the kill. But that would be PBF's choice and not Baldomir's skill. Hatton, he'd just swarm and go for the kill from round 1.

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I can't see himgetting stopped by either, but I feel Mayweather would have the better chance of KOing Baldomir

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

Call me crazy but if i was in a close fight and took a shot that hurt me, the last thing i would do is hang my a** on the ropes and bounce up and down, while taking shots, with my hands down and not throwing many punches. I would be holding on until i regained my composure. What a terrible ending to a good fight. Rounds three and nine are the only rounds baldomir dominated, in my book. Gatti landed as many hard shots as baldomir, but baldomir never seemed hurt by them. Close fight, until the knockout.

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Not a close fight. Baldomir was outpointing Gatti & on top of that...hardly any of Gatti's shots hand any effect against Baldomir.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

Call me crazy but if i was in a close fight and took a shot that hurt me, the last thing i would do is hang my a** on the ropes and bounce up and down, while taking shots, with my hands down and not throwing many punches. I would be holding on until i regained my composure. What a terrible ending to a good fight. Rounds three and nine are the only rounds baldomir dominated, in my book. Gatti landed as many hard shots as baldomir, but baldomir never seemed hurt by them. Close fight, until the knockout.

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Not a close fight. Baldomir was outpointing Gatti & on top of that...hardly any of Gatti's shots hand any effect against Baldomir.

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Your right Gatti couldn't hurt Baldomir, but it seemed every shot Baldomir landed hurt

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

Call me crazy but if i was in a close fight and took a shot that hurt me, the last thing i would do is hang my a** on the ropes and bounce up and down, while taking shots, with my hands down and not throwing many punches. I would be holding on until i regained my composure. What a terrible ending to a good fight. Rounds three and nine are the only rounds baldomir dominated, in my book. Gatti landed as many hard shots as baldomir, but baldomir never seemed hurt by them. Close fight, until the knockout.

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Not a close fight. Baldomir was outpointing Gatti & on top of that...hardly any of Gatti's shots hand any effect against Baldomir.

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Your right Gatti couldn't hurt Baldomir, but it seemed every shot Baldomir landed hurt

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True...for a guy that has so very few KO's on his dossier...he put a hell of a wacking on Judah & especially Gatti.

What shall the future hold?

Hopefully another big fight next. Mayweather, Hatton, Margarito or even Mosley should be on his hit list

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by galaxy76

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Originally Posted by sexydarin

Call me crazy but if i was in a close fight and took a shot that hurt me, the last thing i would do is hang my a** on the ropes and bounce up and down, while taking shots, with my hands down and not throwing many punches. I would be holding on until i regained my composure. What a terrible ending to a good fight. Rounds three and nine are the only rounds baldomir dominated, in my book. Gatti landed as many hard shots as baldomir, but baldomir never seemed hurt by them. Close fight, until the knockout.

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Not a close fight. Baldomir was outpointing Gatti & on top of that...hardly any of Gatti's shots hand any effect against Baldomir.

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Your right Gatti couldn't hurt Baldomir, but it seemed every shot Baldomir landed hurt

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True...for a guy that has so very few KO's on his dossier...he put a hell of a wacking on Judah & especially Gatti.

What shall the future hold?

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A good title reign. I said Baldomir was the real deal but knocking out Gatti was a shock. Gatti has a great chin but he couldn't take the non stop barrage of punches.

I can say the same fate awaited Judah if he didn't get on his bike. Gatti didnt get on his bike and we see what just happened.

I think all the wars have caught up with Gatti, sure he was competitive but all of a sudden seemed to wilt. Hope Baldomir keeps fighting the top guys

Thats because Gatti couldn't hurt him was why he wilted. He wanted to knock Baldomir out and when he couldn't he gave up

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Originally Posted by Starr

Thats because Gatti couldn't hurt him was why he wilted. He wanted to knock Baldomir out and when he couldn't he gave up

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I don't think Gatti gave up, I've never seen Gatti give up, I just think he's got nothing left

he gave up mentally because you can tell he went out headhunting and he couldn't knock Baldomir out, so he got discouraged so he started trying everything, but then he mentally gave out, he would have kept fighting but he knew he wasn't going to win

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Originally Posted by Starr

he gave up mentally because you can tell he went out headhunting and he couldn't knock Baldomir out, so he got discouraged so he started trying everything, but then he mentally gave out, he would have kept fighting but he knew he wasn't going to win

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Baldomir just beat him down, Gatti ain't what he used to be. Call it what you want but all the wars have taken their toll, Gatti would have always fought on to the finish. But every shot that Baldomir landed looked like it rocked Gatti

Baldomir was impressive & IMO it may be best that Hatton stays away after seeing hoe he did against Callazo! PBF will easily take Baldomir for the belt

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Originally Posted by NorthSideX4

Baldomir was impressive & IMO it may be best that Hatton stays away after seeing hoe he did against Callazo! PBF will easily take Baldomir for the belt

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I definently agree that Hatton would have some issues with Baldomir.

Not sure about Floyd will Baldo...I kind of go back & forth with that. Baldomir appeared a lot more dominant than his last go with Judah.

Floyd will easily out land him...I'm just curious as to how Floyd will hold up to that accurate of a heavy hitter.

For some reason...I just constantly worry about the weight...but then I want to see Oscar vs Floyd...contradiction after contradiction.

Let's just say that I think Floyd has a much easier night with Baldo than Hatton would.

Remember Zab outboxing him for 6 rounds. Floyd has the mental concentration to not stop. And don't but the Gatti isn't a 147 pounder stuff because neither was judah. Mayweather decisions Baldomir